Should Sanders litigate?

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  1. Xanzia

    Xanzia New Member

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    This is pretty much theoretical, but I would love it if Sanders led his supporters in a class-action law suit against Wasserman-Schultz, and then inevitably Clinton. The Clintons and their co-conspirators have stolen the time, effort and money of Sanders and all the decent Americans who worked with and for him. Disgraceful.
    Feel the BERN, Hillary! :fingerscrossed:

    It is unfortunate that the first female presidential nominee is so dishonest.
     
  2. tomander7020

    tomander7020 Well-Known Member

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    I've seen no evidence that Hillary Clinton was involved in the DNC scandal. Do you have any? If you do, please cite it. If you don't, your calling Hillary Clinton dishonest sounds dishonest itself.

    Despite all of the unfounded accusations, to my knowledge Hillary Clinton has never been formally charged with any dishonest act. Hearings on Donald Trump's fraud charge, on the other hand, will resume after the election.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    there is none
     
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    3link Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I hope you're right. If we find out she was involved, we'll be stuck with a Donald presidency.
     
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    Arkie Well-Known Member

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    When are Bernie supporters going to wake up and realize he HANDED her all his voters and ENDORSED her as next POTUS. He has no intention of doing a damn thing except roll over again for another belly rub.
     
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    AboveAlpha Well-Known Member

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    Well who didn't know this would happen?

    Sander's ran as a Democrat and there was no way in HELL he wasn't going to endorse her.

    Sad...but true.

    AA
     
  7. beth115

    beth115 New Member Past Donor

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    He chose not to take this on during the primaries. That was his wimpy choice. So no.
     
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    LiveUninhibited Well-Known Member

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    If Sanders actually believes the principles he states, then attacking Clinton now is the last thing he should do. I find it hard to believe Sanders supporters are dense enough not to understand this. Maybe after the election he could go after Wasserman, but frankly I think he has better things to do, and one of those would include advocating for changes that prevent corruption and promote his progressive agenda.
     
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    he is scared. Its as simple as that.

    If you think for a second he actually, personally supports hillary you dont know bernie sanders very well.

    This is the equivalent of say.... Ron Paul coming out and supporting Bush junior. Its that insane.

    I have a pretty solid hunch there are some very dirty things going on behind the scenes. much, much more than we know about.

    its either that or.... he is in fact crazy...... or everything about him is a lie. I honestly dont believe that though.
     
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    beth115 New Member Past Donor

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    He is wimp listened to him on the senate floor nand hearings for years, never liukednhim as he is a a socialist and a communist and is a member of both organizations as are most of the democrats in congress.
     
  11. 1up2down

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    socialism is just the sales pitch for communism. Communists have done it for years. he is basically a communist ideologue that believes in pure communism but doesnt seem to have a grasp that communism is so very easily corrupted and twisted into complete dictatorship. It happens every..single...time. every...single...time.

    capitalism and free markets can go to crap too but it is a lot harder to do.... especially in a republic.

    Bernie is a dreamer who believes in pure and good communism where nobody ever comes in to take advantage of the system. it just never works out that way. communisms strength is that its a very effective method to take full control of a populace and destroy liberty when manipulated by power mongers. its just too easily vulnerable to corruption.

    To be honest I really hate it. the Kennedy's hated it, Reagan hated it...... basically any honest and caring human being hates it. many ideologues have this beautiful vision of it working but its not now nor has it ever been grounded in reality. this is how i believe Bernie envisions it.
     
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    Bernie Sanders came in second in the Democratic primary with or without the emails. He did what anyone who genuinely believes in democracy would do: He graciously conceded defeat and used his influence as a strong second-place finisher to modify the rules for future conventions and to put his mark on the Democratic platform for the upcoming general election.

    Of course, those who do not believe in democracy do not accept the results of elections. Thankfully for our democratic system of government, Bernie Sanders is not one of those people.
     
  13. Xanzia

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    Well, the Trump University case is really not comparable (to most intelligent minds) with Clinton's disregard of national security on an extreme level of gross professional misconduct. Not at all to be compared in the same sentence or even the same thread.

    But, turning to the undemocratic nature of the Democratic Party and Wasserman-Schultz's ill-advised attempts at 'girl power'. Yes, there is no evidence to suggest direct involvement by Clinton in this - but only a fool would believe that her agents are not at work in this disgraceful attack on democracy so that she can become America's first female president. It is just tragic that she is so desperate and her only remarkable feature is her extreme negligence and dishonesty.
     
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    The difference between the Trump and Clinton cases is that Trump seems to have defrauded many people out of their hard-earned money and is going to have to answer for it in court, whereas Hillary Clinton has never been charged with anything but foolishness or (if you prefer) recklessness in the case of her email server.

    As to a possible Clinton connection to the DNC email scandal, I'd want to see some proof before condemning her. Ditto for "her extreme negligence and dishonesty." Our standard of justice in this country thankfully does not read "guilty until proven innocent." This is not Russia, China, or Turkey, although some people make unproven accusations as if it were. Despite everything the right-wing blogoshere has accused Hillary Clinton of so far, none of it has stood up to the inquiries the most conservative Republican investigators, senators, and members of the House..

    We need some instruction in critical thinking in our schools in this country. We are not only falling behind in science, math, and our ability to read; we are falling behind in our ability to think.
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Show me where the DNC has to show parity in donations......

    go ahead...i'll wait .......
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you have a limited understanding of economic systems as is very prevalent in this post.

    You realize you just described our current "capitalist" economy here in america right ?
     
  17. Statistikhengst

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    Srsly??

    For real??

    Nooooooo..........................

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    Not only that, it's not a scandal.

    Not one of those emails broke a law.

    Not one.
     
  18. grapeape

    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Direct involvement in WHAT ?

    The DNC is not chartered to create or provide parity amongst it own candidates.

    I love how this is an issue in the DNC, yet at the RNC the Trumpeters keep screaming that the RNC was against him. Well if they were against him aren't they just as corrupt ?
     
  19. Statistikhengst

    Statistikhengst Well-Known Member

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    BINGO. Spot-on.

    Well written.

    Thank you.
     
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    Sanders has more principles than Ted Cruz.He's going to keep his word I bet.
     
  21. 1up2down

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    our capitalist system has been corrupted. You do realize that right? this is chrony capitolism. It is just as bad as communism.
     
  22. grapeape

    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I completely agree. That was my point. Any system is open to being bastardized.

    All of them look good on paper, but all of them are corruptible. Communism in Russia only failed because it was corrupted by the oligarchy.

    And for the record. Bernie is not a socialist. He is a democratic socialist. There is a big distinction there.
     
  23. 1up2down

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    yeah he is a democratic socialist who likes to decorate with communist flags.

    Its really doesnt matter what Bernie is because there is no logistical way to implement Bernies ideas without complete implosion. As a democrat this is my problem with Bernie. He seams to think government can just create money out of thin air and people with voluntarily work for free or less pay. It just does not work in reality.

    He is still leaps and bounds above hillary though. Bernie may be a dreamer but at least his heart is in the right place..... I think. Now that he is endorsing hillary I am not sure how genuine he really is. Something very strange is going on behind the scenes. It is the equivalent of say..... Ron Paul endorsing Bush JR..... its just that weird.
     

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