Why do More Than 1/3 of Americans Plan to Vote for Trump?

The media, big banks and business don't like Trump. There's a reason for that and it's not in favor of your wallet. No matter what he does the media will turn it into bad even if it's good for the people.

Hillary lies and the media covers up for her. There's no telling now or in the future what Hillary is doing behind the scenes. If we would not like it she'll just lie about it.

 

All those people you named are big city corporate political opportunists. They have no real ideological allegiance to anything. Why on earth would I as a progressive who's going to vote for Trump care what some corporate (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) thinks?

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Oh please. I'm a white Progressive and Trump is just fine by me. I love it that his rhetoric is strong. That's a good thing. I love it that he infuriates upper class rich people who want to control everything anybody says. Good for Trump. Tell them to go (*)(*)(*)(*) themselves.

 

You didn't address the issue of Donald Trump's sanity. Yesterday, Arizona Republican Jeff Flake, who grew up in an isolated small town and can be no means be considered a big-city corporate type, was interviewed on Phoenix radio and spoke at length about all of the reasons that Donald Trump would be a total disaster as president. Hillary Clinton has a problem telling the truth, and she would not be my first pick as president, but at least she is sane. Donald Trump obviously is not.

 

When have you? Other than via fallacies and emotional appeals.

 

Nailed it. There is no reason to vote for trump besides fear and ignorance.

 

What I do know is that Trump has a penchant for character assassination and is not diplomatic. He asks "can't I defend myself", and the answer is of course yes, yet opposing being PC is fine it does not make it so Trump can say whatever he wants without consequence. And while calling a foreign dignitary a bimbo or a world leader a flatulating butthead may be humorous to see a president Trump do, I think it would not be in Americas best interest. It is one thing to insult a reporter here in the USA, it is another thing if he insults a world leader who wields immense power.

 

You so do not even remotely grasp this.

I don't care about some little podunk fool religious nut in Arizona or some GOP corporate (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) Koch brother thinks about Trump. The entire reason I as a white Progressive like Trump and will vote for him is because people like you and them tell me I shouldn't. The more you tell me I shouldn't, the more I know I should.

 

Nope, I don't grasp any of that nonsense, I have never heard anyone refer to Jeff Flake as a religious nut. Even his political enemies respect his honesty.

Voting for a nut job just because I think you shouldn't isn't a rational decision. I think you are confirming the suspicions that people who would vote for someone who is mentally out of touch with reality may themselves have some misfiring synapses. Go ahead an vote for Trump if you think that is a logical reaction to my pointing out that Trump is not sane, but don't try to pretend that you're performing a rational act.

I think the dialog between you and me ends on that note.

 

Why do More Than 1/3 of Americans Plan to Vote for Trump?

Because even Bozo the Clown would be better than having Hillary as President.

 

Truth be told, I believe 1/3 of America has given up on the democratic process. What they are looking for is a dictator who will "make the trains run on time" and have special coaches for white people only.

 

The logical answer is that those 1/3 that will still vote for Trump are as nutty as he. Remember, no matter how much evil Hitler was he still had substantial supporters.

 

-Translation = You can't stand that the average American isn't interested in your "experts" and is going to (*)(*)(*)(*) on them.

 

The reason so many will vote for him is illustrated by why he exists in the first place. For over a damn decade now I've been on forums just like this one and thanks to straight up delusion a reality has yet to sink in for many people. The problem we have with this country is that one side of the argument has been taking place in a vacuum for decades. One side of the political argument has been taking place in an alternate reality. THAT is why Trump can woo millions of voters to him by promising them that building a wall of debt will solve a problem that doesn't exist.

The morons who loved Trump for trying to expose the "truth" about Obama being a secret Muslim hell bent on destroying America didn't just suddenly appear. They were bred by decades of right wing lies and bull(*)(*)(*)(*), literally convinced that if they went to college they would be brain washed with liberal ideals, you know like thinking for themselves.

Trump is kind of right about one thing though, political correctness has done damage in this country. For decades the media and left-wing talking heads and politicians have given the false impression that these neanderthals on the right actually deserved respect. Trump is like a virus that hacked the GOP's private server and shared all their personal information with the world and everyone who hasn't yet bought into their (*)(*)(*)(*) is naturally appalled. Meanwhile the old guard of the GOP is pretending there's no real connection between Trump and the propaganda they've spent the last 40 years perpetuating.

Twas delusion and denial that killed the beast....

 

Because Americans have been sick and tired of status quo, same old same old, professional politicians for years. They never accomplish much of any good, they make grandiose promises, ( hope and change I feel your pain blah blah blah ) and serve only themselves whether gopers or dems.

A person who is not a professional politician can do no worse and is a welcome change to many

 

No, Clinton did not run the Mafia. Read the posts with your brain engaged.

 

Of course the world today is the result of the past 50 years, actually the result of the past 100 years (WW1 set the stage). The current US and world condition is not due to one single entity, its ridiculous to lay all the blame on the US, or Bush '43, or obama. We agree on that concept.

But Hilary represents the mindset and philosophy that brought the US and the world to the current state of affairs. She is just more of the same. Its people just like Hilary, in both the R & D parties, that created the mess.

And, its true that people have for many years warned that the US was heading into a financial and economic disaster - people in the Carter administration said as much because they could see the demographic and fiscal trends, they had tremendous foresight and the guts to bring up the problem, but nothing was done. Because it has not collapsed is not that relevant because the basis of the warning has not been altered, the concerns are valid because nothing has changed, the negative trends continue, the bad policies continue and are expanded.

The parties 50 years ago could work together because their philosophies overlapped, but they were moving apart, the end result of today was inevitable. Today, there is no overlap between "progressives" and conservatives, there is no place where they can meet without one fully abandoning fundamental concepts. "progressives" want an ever bigger government and top down control and the end of individualism, conservatives state the govt has already gotten too large and is unacceptable and tyrannical. The 2 groups cannot coexist.

 

So Trump is gruff and direct and blunt in public - good for him. Some things deserve to be ridiculed. The USA has reached a point at which some people think every person and every idea requires attention and consideration and respect - even if the person is a fool or the idea is asinine. Time to call a fool a fool and end the PC insanity.

I doubt Trump is so rude in private, you don't get to his position by pissing off everyone you talk to. World politicians call each other names in public, they attack each other, but they are not little flowers, they know the game and when they get behind closed doors its all business.

 

Making fun of the disabled? Calling women fat pigs? That is not gruff.....it is openly insulting and beneath the office the the leader of the free world.

 

It appears that many of our tender electorate prioritize embarrassment or having their feelings hurt as a more significant problem than dealing with the actual order of evil itself. Even well organized, well financed, unsupportable evil as well as unrestrained or shameless evil is not as important to them as the perception or pretense of appearing uncouth to their peers.

Yes Trump is abrasive but he is not evil. On the other hand, Hillary is morally corrupt, who hides behind the media and knowingly lies straight to the faces of the American peoples she transforms the corruption of her past and present into perfectly edible cupcakes of misinformation. And the masses will eat up.

Why? Because she promises you free stuff?

Trump is offensive. Hillary is criminal.

 

America will fall because today people have misplaced priorities, favoring institutional lying over a guy who refuses to coo.

 

Stop with the word games. Trump is not abrasive, he is not gruff, blunt or direct. He is openly insulting and a bigot.

 

We need a safe space for our tender electorate (Vegas giants) who prioritizes having his feelings hurt as a more significant problem than dealing with the actual evil itself.... LOL

Vegas you're a Powder Puff

Hillary is criminal!

 

A lot of sane people were once Republicans and became very loyal over the years. They can't/won't admit the idea that their party has gone insane.

This happened because of Newt Gingrich and Bush the Younger. They started and continued a movement to make the Republican party ideologically pure by purging it of all but True Believers. As naturally happens in any organization of True Believers the Belief became more and more radical to the point where it was insane, Normally, that movement would have fizzled out as a faction of Republican thought in 2008. However, Obama was elected and the Movement hooked on to the racism and then the xenophobia that have characterized the GOP since the 1960's. Since 2008 they have become worse and worse and in 2015 their Messiah appeared

Republicanism is now almost entirely based upon hate and fear, these are a potent mix for many, but hopefully they are rarely a majority

 

Wow. My company commander never called me a powder puff. LOL

 

Liberalism and Democratism is entirely based on "lies" and Hillary is the perfect standard bear of liars.

What is curious is Hillary has no problem lying to you, she promises she'll do all the things you want. How do you know she is not lying to you?