As a Clinton supporter who voted both times for Obama, I have to say I agree with TeaAddict on this one. Unlike my fellow liberal Democrats, while I do believe Obama was born in Hawaii, I do NOT believe the birther movement is based on Obama’s race. I simply believe that it’s a convenient conspiracy theory for political opponents to drum up about him because of the circumstances of his life story (his father was a foreign-born immigrant, he spent a significant amount of his childhood living in another country, and he has some fairly close relatives living in another country). Think of it this way: I’m white, my dad is German, and he spent 20 years living in Ecuador before coming to the U.S. and meeting my mom, and when I was a child, I visited my cousins in Ecuador. If I were to run for president, and my political ideas were hated by enough people, I could easily imagine some people out there coming up with a conspiracy theory that I was born in Ecuador and not California. If the birther issue was really happening “just because he’s black”, then the same thing would have been brought up about Jesse Jackson back in the ‘80s and ‘90s. But it wasn't, because there wouldn’t have been any building blocks on which to base that theory. -Jackson’s life story doesn’t have chapters in it what would open up that possibility in peoples’s minds. Jackson did not have immigrant parents, nor close cousins living in a faraway country, and (as far as I know), I think prior to running for President, he had never even set foot outside the United States. I’ll also add that I DON’T believe that: a…Republicans hate Obama "just because he’s black," or that b…blacks support Obama "just because he’s black." If Republicans hated Obama just because he’s black, then why do Republicans come out in droves to hear black candidates like Herman Cain and Ben Carson? If blacks support Obama just because he’s black, then why is it that at a typical Ben Carson event, you would see a sea of white faces, and not one single person of color? Just sayin'.....
Um just for the record ... How big an Hawaiian Government official would the Governor of Hawaii BE.? Like Top dog. Well Neil Abercrombie,a former 16 year Congressman ran for Governor of Hawaii.having arrived in Hawaii in 1959 to study sociology at the University of Hawaii.A Native of Buffalo,N.Y. Abercrombie met Obama's father as a teaching asst. Describing him as a good friend. When Running for Governor,he ran on a pledge,if elected he would get to the bottom of Obama's Birth Certificate dilemma.This pleased no end,Chris Matthews when word of Abercrombie winning the Governorship. Because Matthews doggedly asked every single Politican appearing on - Hardball - if they believe Obama to be a U.S. Citizen.Matthews would not take no for an answer.Every person had to answer that Matthews Question. When Governor Abercrombie failed to come up with Obama's Birth Certificate and then admitting he could not locate it,this became an issue ... Again. All Governor Abercrombie could admit to locating was something written down in the archives pertaining to a Birth but No long-form birth certificate. There ya have it.The Governor himself,after pledging if he won,swore to end the Obama birth certificate debate once and for all and present Obama's valid BC { long-form }. He could not.
Because it was a way to implement a Saul Alinsky sort of Book of rules. Make the opposition live up to their own book of rules. Because that is what Hillary and Obama pulled on McCain. Way before Obama's Birth certificate ever became an Issue,there was the issue of John McCain's eligibility.How was it that both Obama and Hillary managed to co-sponser a bill drafted by Patrick Leahy and Clair McCaskill which was a non-binding resolution, That resolution ,introduced to the Senate as Senate Resolution 511, passed on April 30,2008.
Obama was on the committee that vetted McCain's illegibility to run for POTUS and it only took about 20 minutes. Birthers are ridiculously ignorant of the laws.
Once again: Do Trump's BLINDED legions actually believe that "The Sun Rises in the East"? I still haven't gotten an answer. Or, is it that they are still waiting for Trump to hold a presser to confirm this fact for them?
Because he was not legally permitted to do so When Abercrombie took office, he vowed to end the investigations into President Barack Obama's birth certificate. A spokesperson for Abercrombie said he would ask the office of the Attorney General what they can do.[25] State Attorney General David M. Louie informed Abercrombie that state privacy laws prevent the release of "an individual's birth documentation without the person's consent" to persons who do not have "a tangible interest" in the document.[26] However a state official has confirmed seeing the original lf birth certificate http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/12/us/hawaii-health-director-obama-birth/
Yeah Right.Obama .. what a guy. helped out McCain over an eligibility issue.Kinda begs the question as to how many pages of Health did Obama vs. McCain turn over. Obama ... less than 2 pages { a page and a half of Health documents all written by the same doctor } and McCain over 4,00 pages of his health records. To the naked eye it would appear that this Obama guy is a little short on documentation.Which explains his June 2008 COLB { mere Photostat receipt}. No Doctor,No Hospital, No vitals.
Wasn't till after the New Governor failed and failed to find any Obama Birth Long-form that he crafted an excuse. Celebrity Journalist and friend of Governor Abercrombie,Mike Evans, explained on radio interviews how Abercrombie,personally admitted to him his quest to find the Obama BC had failed. A KLBJ host then asked Evans ... " I thought the holder of the certificate said it was locked up,that she had seen it. " " Well " said Evans ... " the governor demanded to see it,went to the hospitals, sent all of his people,a search warrant,and he could not get it. " Evans on another Radio show said ... " Yesterday,I talked to Neil ... said he has searched everywhere using his powers as Governor ... there is no Barack Obama birth certificate. "
The CONCEPT OF DOUBT is not the racist element. ANd to PROVE IT IS NOT RACIST, SHOW US THE EVIDENCE. AND, the records of his MEN ON THE GROUND.
Are you now saying that state pricacy laws cited by tbe attorney general do not apply? Because if they do apply, he could not get them with a subpoena Fwiw Newsmax says HONOLULU — A privacy law that shields birth certificates has prompted Democratic Gov. Neil Abercrombie to abandon efforts to dispel claims that President Barack Obama was born outside Hawaii, his office says. State Attorney General David Louie told the governor that privacy laws bar him from disclosing an individual's birth documentation without the person's consent, Abercrombie spokeswoman Donalyn Dela Cruz said Friday. Breaking News at Newsmax.com http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/ObamaBirthCertificate/2011/01/22/id/383582/#ixzz4KZ0bmWi6 Urgent: Do You Back Trump or Hillary? Vote Here Now!
The state of Hawaii and it's Officials have been lying thru their teeth about every aspect of Obama's Birth records.They've gone thru a fleet of officials just trying to maintain the Charade.No different than Obama's IRS or his Homeland Security corruption.Let alone his DOJ.
Except that hawii had a republican governor in 2009 Who said Its been an odd situation, Lingle said, referring to the continuing controversy over the disputed natural-born citizenship of Obama. This issue kept coming up so much in the campaign, and again I think its one of those issues that is simply a distraction from the more critical issues that are facing the country. So I had my health director, who is a physician by background, go personally view the birth certificate in the birth records of the Department of Health, and we issued a news release at that time saying that the president was, in fact, born at Kapiolani Hospital in Honolulu, Hawaii. And thats just a fact and yet people continue to call up and e-mail and want to make it an issue and I think its again a horrible distraction for the country by those people who continue this.
Youre right. Its alllllllll about His Majesty's disliked person/flavor of the year. - - - Updated - - - Yes, for a bazillion, alex.
Technically, Obama is an American. Intellectually, emotionally, and culturally, he's a citizen of the world, which (in his mind) is more important than citizenship to any nation state.
This needs to be SHOUTED out over and over. - - - Updated - - - So very true. Let's see how many deniers call you names for this.
Cruz was, in fact, born in Canada. Obama was, in fact, born in Hawaii. Do you need a history lesson? You do know that Hawaii is a state belonging to the US, right?
Yah, was a dick to both of them. Your point? - - - Updated - - - Now, mg, its not polite to laugh at special people. - - - Updated - - - Does it really matter? However, in Obama's case it gave the (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) racists something to grab onto with both hands AND their ground dragging knuckles.
No, YOUR answer is a tepid, back-handed slap at Hilary's concession. - - - Updated - - - Lies. The birth was announced in the paper in Hawaii.
If you bothered to read, you would see I didn't compare it to the Holocaust. I compared Trumps denial of 400 years of oppressing and brutalizing of black Americans comparable to denial of the Holocaust. And it is a moral imperative, in my opinion, to make this crystal clear to everyone who is thinking of voting form Trump.
Because they know neither of those morons will ever hold any position of prominence in the republican party. They are not threatened by them. It helps that their speeches do nothing but confirm their bias.
The amount of hang wringing and excuse making in this thread for the arch racist republican candidate is amazing. It's also not a surprise. Hate and fear, it's the republican way.
I wasn't talking about Texas. They're mostly too far gone. They have a lot of the half of the half of the deplorables who irredeemable. Good luck with that.