Final Battle Starting To Free Aleppo From Terrorists- As Per UN Resolution

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    The Syrian army is ready to free Aleppo from the terrorists and are calling for the terrorists to either surrender or to drop their weapons and leave East Aleppo.

    The army said they know the positions of the terrorists in E. Aleppo, and also where their weapons are stored, and that they will limit their attacks to those areas, so as not to worsen the humanitarian situation. They also asked the terrorists to please allow those who want to leave, to leave.

    In the meantime a French diplomat is flying to Moscow to meet with Lavrov on a draft about Syria. He will then fly to Washington to try to convince them. Seems like they're getting a little fed up with Washington's war mongering and stupidities, and want to see if they can make some kind of settlement.

    France as far as I know has a lot at stake. I think it's dependent economically on Qatar, and if so, it would account for why they have always leaned towards the terrorists rather than Assad and the Syrian people.


    Before some time the forces of Bashar al-Assad called on those who are in town or to surrender or leave, warning how anyone will remain faced with the "inevitable fate", as stated in a Communication adopted.

    According to the information the Syrian Army has cut off the supply lines of the rebels of "Islamic State" in the north of Aleppo, and has reliable information on all their positions, but also the points that store weapons. At the same time, he urged everyone to leave their weapons and leave the town.

    The Syrian army also announced restriction of air raids and bombing rebel positions in eastern Aleppo, in order not to worsen the humanitarian disaster situation, and to allow those who want to leave to leave to other safer areas.


    http://www.pronews.gr/portal/201610...nosis-toy-halepioy-exedose-o-syriakos-stratos
     
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    Everyone should just get out of Syria and let them have their own civil war.
     
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    Yet another " We had to destroy the village in order to free them" moment as the russian airforce and Assad continue their genocidal campaign killing children and bombing hospitals.

    What I find amusing is the blatant propaganda being spewed by a blatant propagandist.
     
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    Free Aleppo from Muslim terrorists and put other Muslim terrorists in charge. Pretty much sums up the Obama Clinton foreign policy.
     
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    Strange that the terrorist attacks on the civilian areas in Aleppo are never mentioned? Oh that's right I forgot, they did mention the death of the Christian girl and her brother, but somehow forgot to say it was the rebels, and not the Syrian bombs.

    Vladimir Putin has just given warning, that if any American coalition plane makes a 'mistake' and attacks the Syrians, it will be shot down. I guess he feels enough is enough with the games.
     
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    You mean the "terrorists" that are fighting the Syrian Army in Alleppo, actually fighting. Have you seen what the Syrian Army with massive assistance from your beloved comrades has done to the city of Alleppo? You dare to point to an instance of christian children being killed by a rebel bomb, when your side is killing children and innocents by the HUNDREDS weekly?

    That is pretty damn scummy justification, even for you.
     
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    It might seem strange to you since your only source of information is the MSM, but the terrorists have been attacking the civilian areas for years now. As Lavrov said, the people in east Aleppo are not the only civilians in the city.

    But then again genocide has been going on now for years in Syria against Christians and even recognized as such by the UN, but not a nary about them in the impartial MSM ...and I say that sarcastically.

    As for the hospitals that are being bombed, are they the same non existent ones bombed by Russia?


    [video=youtube;mm4Zo9ALv7w]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm4Zo9ALv7w[/video]
     
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    What? Hey, there is a civil war going on in Syria, as radical islamists who want to replace a secular state with a sunni theocracy, and Aleppo is an important stronghold for the radicals. Of course you gotta take it from them. Good grief. You even been in a war? This is how they work. If we had not did this in ww2 we could not have won it. I hate to break the news to some of the people here. Reality sucks. Which is why we should never go to war unless we are defending our own nation from an enemy who is trying to conquer us. Assad is doing what the has a right to do. To keep his gov't in place.

    We are the evil aggressors here. To date by proxy, but we are behind the radicals and greatly financed it. Russia is there at the request of assad, its rightful ruler. But alas he is of the shia sect. And the sunnis hate them. Especially when he would not allow the arabs to build a NG line across his nation.
     
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    Here's the latest. Lavrov will try to convince Assad to allow the terrorists to leave eastern Aleppo with their arms to save the city. They will even be escorted out by the UN. They can then go to Idlib which I believe is their stronghold. I'm not sure though.
     
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    You know, this is turning into a dangerous situation. For I am not at all certain that DC is sane enough to avoid our military and Russia's military from colliding. It will be Russia's fault of course, for it was a complete accident on our part and we never had an intention at all. With the arrogance in DC and the insane lack of respect for Russia, which our earlier leaders had the sense to give, due to the fact that Russia can literally destroy the US as we destroy them. I hear Russia just had or is about to have a drill where their cities go underground, its people. Is this true? I have not researched it. Might be some conspiracy site or alex jones saying such things. But if it is true? Well, it scares the crap outta me. I grew up in the cold war and drills at school and many people owning bomb shelters. We seem to be regressing to that.
     
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    no doubt 90% of the casualties will be innocent civilians
     
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    It will be the same percentage as it was in Gaza during the war when the civilians were held as human shields.

    The Syrian army did drop leaflets telling the civilians to keep away from the areas the terrorists congregate, and that there are passageways for them to leave ...that is if the terrorists will allow them to which is doubtful.
     
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    I am against any such deals and its best if Lavrov didn't fall for the trap that the terrorist sponsors routinely set for him. This fight needs to be waged and won. While every effort should be made to limit casualties to non-combatants and innocent civilians, the only option that should be given to the terrorists in eastern Aleppo is to surrender with their guns.
     
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    Good grief, do you even have a clue as to the actual composition of the syrian opposition? there are a lot more "patriotic" syrians than there are "Islamist nutbars".

    But hey I get you think that rebelling against an oppressive and murderous government is a terrible crime and that Assad and the Russkies are only doing what is righteous.

    Take a look at what is happening in alleppo. Its Chechnya all over again.

    As for Assad, he is of alawite background not shia. And he is entirely secular as the head of the Baath party - you know the same one that Saddam was head of in Iraq.

    I suggest you garner a few more facts before gifting us with such political analysis of a region you obviously know so little about.
     
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    The notion that anyone is going to buy into the idea that the main groups fighting Assad are 'patriotic Syrians' is something that no one can sell with a straight face anymore! There was a British inquiry that asked the British government to identify exactly these kind of moderate, patriotic, Syrians that the British could support. Guess what, none were identified because most patriotic Syrians (even those who don't like Assad) aren't part of the groups fighting him.

    Btw, the Alawite are considered part of the Shia sect. I admit, however, that is mainly because the Shia (unlike Sunnis) aren't exactly sticklers for who is to be regarded as a Shia and embrace practically anyone who is willing to be so embraced. That and the fact that the Alawites revere the first Shia Imam, Imam Ali, as well as a Persian companion of the prophet Mohammad ("Salman the Persian") along with Jesus!
     
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    So the civil war is all about Islamists? hardly.


    Mea culpa, they are subsect of the amongst the number of shia sects, more or less.

    Of course the Baathists are secular and couldn't give a hoot about Islam other than to serve as a political tool to control the masses. You are familiar with baathists arent' you?
     
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    A great many of the civilians in East Aleppo are the families of the jihadis. Sorry but they're not innocents, though there are true innocents trapped there.

    As far as any true patriotic resistance, they have self-identified themselves and are part of the Geneva talks. What's left are, by definition, terrorists.

    Syria, Russia and its allies need to get this job done once and for all. The sooner the fighting stops, the sooner people quit dying and, yes, the jihadis are shelling innocents in government-held areas of Aleppo.
     
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    According to Southfront, the terrorists have mined the corridors so the civilians cannot escape. They then tell them that the Syrian army did it. They also will not allow any aid to come into the area.

    France proposed at the Security Council for the bombing to stop, and it was vetoed by Russia. It was nothing but a publicity stunt because they knew it wouldn't pass. Russia proposed that the terrorists leave with their arms so they can reach a peace agreement in Aleppo, and it was vetoed by the US. They realize that if the terrorists leave, the city will go back to Assad and the war will end.

    Moon of Alabama says that Kerry is now resorting to outright lies. He said the following and yet not one opposition group has claimed it or mentioned it... not even the MI 6 disinformation outfit SOHR:


    "...Last night, the regime attacked yet another hospital, and 20 people were killed and 100 people were wounded. And Russia and the regime owe the world more than an explanation about why they keep hitting hospitals and medical facilities and children and women. These are acts that beg for an appropriate investigation of war crimes. And those who commit these would and should be held accountable for these actions..."

    Anyway the fear right now is that Washington is planning a major false flag bombing attack.
     
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    Your a discredit to anyone able to type from the get go! Your telling people to get facts?? The bloody CIA just less than two weeks ago when Kerry was trying to save face from our abysmal state dept position and They stated 85% of the " rebels " are from OUT of country ! Google it. And you should know better as you troll these forums 20 hours a day! You love Hillary and bash Trump all day yet it's HER negotiated policies that destroyed that Syria. FACT. All these things that you find ugly? There? Sheeeee did with Obama, Kerry, Biden.

    It's true. We had no dog in that fight but we backed up Qatar and the Saudis to push Assad out a moderate Islamic state mind you to replace it with conservative sharia law and so WE could run pipelines through Aleppo with our Islamist buddies greatly hurting Russia's natural gas imports to Europe. It was a stupid idea to begin with and its stupid now. Did Kerry the muppet think Russia could afford such a loss to its GDP? Ridiculous. Let's ask BIDEN who's son is literally on the board of directors of the natural gas company in the Ukraine we wanted to pipe too shall we?

    And your cluelessfor bleating about loss of life in Syria when I personally don't think either Qatar or the Saudis would have spent billions hiring Islamist Mercs and kitting them unless we gave the nod. But HEY it's cool what's 200,000 dead beautiful people as long as the Clinton slush fund foundation got an ol what is it up too 50 million? Disgusting.

    Your candidate did this. stop sounding like a chump and you go look it up ignorant man

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    Very conservative estimates have Russia's revenue at 21% from oil and gas. That's still a hella lot compared to our 4%. So why the shocker when they stood up for Assad who has the the best geography of anyone in the entire Middle East to ship to Europe and cripple that income? Would we allow that? Nope. Total fail on our part getting in bed with those conservative Arabs w deep pockets to begin with
     
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    I just finished an article by Thierry Meyssan on Voltairenet that covers everything. He said that Washington's goal is to create a 'pure' Sunnistan by ethnically cleansing and exterminating the Yazidis and Christians from parts of Iraq and Syria. Washington is using ISIS for that purpose.

    http://www.voltairenet.org/article193570.html
     
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    Those are some very big statements he's making without being able to verify. I can't even fathom the UN or NATO or anyone rationalizing our striking Syrian government bases because...oh yah there is no reason? But on the off hand we did? Americans wouldn't care.

    Hmm I still feel like we are blustering, French ministers have been sent around for 100s of years that's not making me oooh ahhh. My question is what's Kerry's goal Is he allowing all this drama to try and negotiate Assad giving up part of Aleppo? I mean the Saudis can go bugger each other they're not going to get Sharia law over all Syria so... Is the goal to grab enough land to run the pipelines? You know hey we got 1/2? I would have said a few weeks ago we'd go out more quietly but.. Kerry is making a lot of noise and he's just a muppet so..
     
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    I am glad the UN resolutions didn't go anywhere! Never mind the French proposal, even the Russian one was not very helpful or useful. In fact, here is hoping that the whole UN Security Council will end up permanently out of business. It has been nothing but a venue to get the Russians and Chinese to go along with plans which aren't in their interests either but, because they used to worry excessively about alienating the US/EU, they would nonetheless go along with in some form or another.
     
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    Oh poppycock, No UN Security Council decision has hurt any major players. It's just been a theater from the get go. No.. My government you know the US has an angle? We keep pushing on a chess board we are out of position in. There has to be a goal. I mean we are really pushing back hard about Aleppo.. Wonder what that muppet Kerry is after
     

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