Will liberals start catering to the white working class vote now?

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  1. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    Liberals will say whatever they need to say to get someone to vote for them.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    not true, the problem was, trump was such a loser, many thought he could not win and did not bother to vote

    thus allowing Trump to win by default

    that is the problem with being too far ahead in the polls and public support

    that doesn't mean Trump can't still be a good President, that remains to be seen

    let's just not try to read more into it than what really occurred though

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    According to whom?
    Supported by what?
     
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    Time to run Warren or others leaning much further Left.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    supported by the facts....

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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    agree, I would like to see Warren run, had she run or even Clinton picked her as VP, Trump woudl not be President Elect today

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  7. TOG 6

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    The smaller Dem turnout does nothing to illustrate the cause(s) behold the smaller Dem turnout, and certainly does nothing to support your claim.
    But, you know that.
    Feel free to try again.

    According to whom?
    Supported by what?
     
  8. Brewskier

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    Definitely, and as long as Hispanics and Asians are voting more for Democrats, they have no reason to change course. Those two groups are the only two expected to grow in the coming decades by any significant amount.
     
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    With what, burger flipping jobs ?

    The white working class don't want free stuff just real jobs and stop shoving political correctness up their bungholes.
     
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    For that matter, will Democrats ever start catering to black working class folks? If so, when?
     
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    Yet you've done exactly what you are telling others not to do. It's closed minded people like you that make me glad that Trump won.
     
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    Exactly.
     
  13. Shiva_TD

    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    The "minimum wage" is predominately a Band-Aid fix to address a symptom of the problem coming from the Democrats but it doesn't fix the problem. My favorite analogy is a brain tumor where the Democrats address the symptom of the headache and not the brain tumor. The headache keeps getting worse so it costs more and more for stronger pain killers. Eventually the person dies anyway because the brain tumor was never treated. Republicans, on the other hand, ignore both the brain tumor and the pain so the person dies sooner because the top 1% are profiting by selling body parts that they can't get until the person dies.
     
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    when min wage doesn't keep up with inflation, your gonna have issues
     
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    seriously, I am closed minded for thinking Trump might be a good President, so why do you support him again?
     
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    it definitely shows that the Trump win was not "a movement", but lack of dem voter turnout... whatever the reason for that lack of turn out was
     
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    Once again this is a Band-Aide fix of a symptom. The problem is actually "Ownership of Property" that allows "possession of property" without the "right to possess" the property. That's what John Locke addressed in Chapter 5 of his Second Treatise of Civil Government in discussing the Natural Right "Of Property" and that's gone over the heads of even many people that have read John Locke's arguments for Natural Rights based upon the Laws of Nature.
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    Donald Trump's win, and Barrack Obama's win, and George W Bush's win, and keep on going back in time, was because the political parties have corrupted the Electoral College as it was envisioned by the founders that's explained in Federalist Paper #68. Check it out and see how the American President is supposed to be selected by the Electoral College but realize that we could improve upon the process described as opposed to destroying it like the political parties have managed to do.

    http://www.constitution.org/fed/federa68.htm

    Of note if the Electoral College was used as intended it's virtually 100% certain that neither Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump would have been selected by the Electoral College to be our next president.
     
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    not sure what your saying, to some it's more then a band-aide, are you saying when I buy property, I should own it and never pay taxes on it ever again, not enough land to go around for everyone to buy, be like a monopoly game, at some point one player woudl own all the property

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    1) utter bulldust. but even if it were true, who cares. this is about practical survival, not personal beliefs.

    2) they remember that 'socialism' is about practicalities, not emotions - that's how.

    3) 'stoop low'? you mean lower than deciding to demonise anyone less fortunate (in skin tone and education) than you? and also, more bulldust about 'oppression'. there is none, else Chinese American woman would not be making white liberal males looks dumb and poor.

    4) actually you're right. it IS an imaginary world. liberals imagine the most bizarre things about the conservative (and their preferred leaders).
     
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    I know what it means, and I know the left imagines it's not them. I'm there, remember - on the left.
     
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    The same 'rubes' who were 'intellectuals' when they voted for Obama. Twice.

    The longer this reaction to Trump continues, the more it's starting to feel exactly like arguing with religious fundamentalists. It's all just so much raging ideology and brand loyalty, with very little in the way of critical thought.
     
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    OMG. This kinda (*)(*)(*)(*) is the very reason many women today are thoroughly sick of Third Wave Feminism. It's because we AREN'T sexist that this kind of overt sexism is repulsive to us, idiot (author, not you TS!).

    We don't regard ourselves as oppressed or powerless, and we get along well with men. Heck, some of us even feel bad for men, recognising that today's male actually has a pretty hard life in many respects.

    I suggest that those college educated women voting against the left, are probably clever enough and capable enough to not feel the need for help from green-haired lesbians with anger issues.
     
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    "Will liberals start catering to the white working class vote now?" - no, because the liberals are racists.

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    The Trump win was a MANDATE!!
    (Forget the fact that he lost the popular vote by about a million votes....please.)
     
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    I do. And believe that it's the parents who failed to be responsible. They themselves were the product of post-war boon years, and then lived through the 1960's and its counter-culture movements. The combination of assured safety and wealth, and the virtue signalling implicit in any kind of cultural revolutionary's actions, is what produced these kids. The parents had no idea of what hard scrabble meant, and lost touch with the deliberate business of staying alive. They became vain and lazy. Their kids are the product of that vanity and laziness.
     

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