Trump succeeds where Obama didnt even try

Wow. Such ignorance and misinformation.

Propaganda is powerful stuff.

 

Like the governor of the state Carrier is in......that would be the Vice President elect.

 

So true!

Now watch as they will soon create yet another thread in which they pretend that Obama failed to create jobs while their heroes in the Republican party are miracle workers who "create" miraculous and unprecedented prosperity the likes of which exist in mythic fairy tales and other forms of Hollywood paradises.

 

What about the rest of the jobs? Are some of them being moved to Mexico?

 

Weren't competing with foreign countries to maintain our jobs either. The result of the lack of raw shortage, means that the US must increase its productivity. We need more entrepreneurs, we need more investment and we need this to happen for all of our citizens. We have to restore confidence in investing and we have to teach people how to make the right type of investments for long-term growth and to avoid things such as the subprime mortgages.

We must have an economic revitalization, to "make America great again".

 

Sounds like happy days are here again. Obama the only president that didn't even have 1 year of economic growth at 3%, THE ONLY 1. Of those 15 million jobs many/most were at McDonalds or the like. http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...rst-president-ever-not-see-single-year-3-gdp/

 

Any number of jobs kept in the U.S. is great news, but it's hard to cheer with you when you make an uninformed and stupid comment along with it.

 

Well, I'm kinda old. But this is the first time I can remember a republican saving union jobs. But then again, Mr. Trump isn't really a republican, is he?
This could get interesting. I'll give him an A+ for this.

 

A+ indeed...he needs to keep it up

 

So exactly what would you have expected Obama do? He can't lower taxes just for Carrier. Not only is that not in his purvey as chief executive, it would be considered as a "bill of attainder" even if it made it through Congress.

Trump's leverage was likely having Mike Pence drop a bunch of tax relief to Carrier in the state that he governs.

 

Hasn't stop profits from flowing to the richest. We generally aren't competing with foreign companies for services jobs. The "Marts" and service and retail stores cannot outsource those jobs to India or China.

Productivity has grown just fine overall in the last 35 years. That is not why we've seen the great inequality expansion since 1981.

To do that, we need to stop gutting and start rebuilding the middle classes, the great engine of spending. Middle class incomes have basically stagnated since 1981, while incomes of the wealthy skyrocketed. The bottom 90% are now getting only about 50% of the nation's income versus 65% in 1980. That 15 percentage points equates to over $2 trillion per year of gross national income not going to the middle classes.

Consumer spending is 70% of the economy. We have gutted our middle classes spenders to pamper the richest. Trickle down was a failure. As a result, the great engine of spending doesn't have the purchasing power to drive a robust economy.

Until we start restoring middle class incomes by reserving "trickle down" and stop focusing on pampering the richest, our economy will not achieve its potential.

Unfortunately, we just took a big wrong turn in that regard.

 

It sure hasn't been shrinking. Slow and steady growth is a damn sight better than what we had when the last "successful businessman" GOP president left office.

But as for why it wasn't strong, how that GOP austerity work out for you?

Obama
Federal Spending increase, 2009-2014: -0.53%
Total government employment, 2009-2014: -540,000

Reagan
Federal Spending increase, 1981-1986: +46.0%.
Total government employment, 1981-1986: +879,000

Bush
Federal Spending increase, 2001-2006: +42.5%
Total government employment, 2001-2006: +840,000

source data
Expenditures: http://cbo.gov/sites/default/files/cbofiles/attachments/45249-2014-04-HistoricalBudgetData.xlsx
Employment: http://www.bls.gov/webapps/legacy/cesbtab1.htm

Isn't it ironic that Trumps plan to get people working - massive trillion dollar spending on infrastructure, is the exact same thing Obama proposed time and time again (in much smaller amounts) the GOP obstructionists blocked again and again?

 

Do you understand the concept of "Momentum?" Sometimes small steps are needed at the beginning to reach the end goal. Please, ...don't tell me that the lib agenda can't relate to that concept?

 

Why am I not surprised most of the lefties are upset that these jobs are not leaving the country?

 

Instead of a personal attack, try addressing the subject.

 

So tell me---------------what is uninformed and stupid about my comment. It is true.

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So you agree that Obama is basically useless-------------------right.

 

what was the deal and will Trump still tax them 35% for the jobs that still go to Mexico?

 

I think our leverage is access to our markets.

I didn't vote for Hillary. She is War Monger Kleptocrat who is so stupid with document security that State Department documents ended up on Anthony Weiner's computer, the same computer by the way, that he was using to send pictures of his dong to 15 year old girls.

There's a laugh.

Today the Federal Debt is $19,930,698,649,977.45
One year ago it was $18,827,322,966,908.80

If $1.1T in 365 days is "austerity" what would prolificacy be?

http://treasurydirect.gov/NP/debt/current

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I think our leverage is access to our markets.

I didn't vote for Hillary. She is War Monger Kleptocrat who is so stupid with document security that State Department documents ended up on Anthony Weiner's computer, the same computer by the way, that he was using to send pictures of his dong to 15 year old girls.

There's a laugh.

Today the Federal Debt is $19,930,698,649,977.45
One year ago it was $18,827,322,966,908.80

If $1.1T in 365 days is "austerity" what would prolificacy be?

http://treasurydirect.gov/NP/debt/current

 

Obama's minuses are military
Reagan's pluses military
Bush pluses military.
Bush had virtual unemployment for 7 years. So you gauge 1 year (the housing bubble bust, Clinton's baby) on his entire 2 terms?
Both Bush and Reagan had to rebuild devastated armed services and weapons systems. You do realize govts job is to PROTECT THE PEOPLE. First and foremost.
As far as obstructionist I seem to remember Obama had a trillion dollar check waiting for him when he walked in the door, shovel ready jobs ring a bell?

 

One of the e-mails released by Wikileaks has Obama saying back in either 2007 or 2008 as Senator Obama, I have little experience on the Hill, I'm just a community organizer.

 

Trump's a Bully for sport, but never know, maybe what the country needs is a bully right now, so let's give him the chance the right never gave Obama

 

You and I always disagree on this, and I keep trying to have to tell you: Taxes, by and large do NOT affect the economy. Let me repeat this: Taxes are a macroeconomic factor, LARGELY for the benefit of the Federal Government.

If tax rates are high, the Federal Government gets more revenue. And if tax rates are low, the government gets less revenue.

That's IT. That's the ONLY impact on taxes, ever, ever, ever. So you could tax the 1% by 100% and it STILL wouldn't result in a single cent to the American People. Perhaps, it'd make those government programs more affordable.(If whatever jobs hadn't left, didn't leave.) But that's all it would accomplish.

Of issue is tax cuts, and where the 'bigger' slice of tax cuts has gone to the aforementioned 1%(or 20%) usually by way of kickbacks and other government deductibles. However, it should be noted that the Bush Tax Cuts ALSO gave the Middle class a tax cut. They just weren't proportional.

And as a result of that lack of proportionality, the upper classes were able to save more money than the lower classes. This is somewhat canceled out by the fact that the lower incomes do not have to pay taxes(or very few) taxes, though they are punitively punished through State Income tax, etc.

Could we make these cuts proportional? Yes, in fact we could. You heard it before, and you'll hear it again: The Flat Tax. By having everyone contribute, you'll get more money in the system then you would have from our progressive top-down system of taxing. They argue we'd need 30% at least, I think we can make due with 25%. 25% of taxes across the board from each sector. When you consider the increases from the middle classes, we more than make up for the money lost.

Lowering the Corporate Tax Rate to 15%(which is in the Middle. It's not even the LOWEST rate worldwide.) would be a big bonus. Because while you mention the Warren's of the world, I don't think he's so uneducated as to believe that a financial taxing system with the "affordability" of the highest income-earning companies is actually feasible for the country.

No, in that case we'd be overly dependent on the top-1%, because the other companies would flat out go bankrupt! You must consider the costs of actually doing business. By keeping the Corporate Tax rate(having lowered it) and having capped income taxes at 30%, we finally return to some form of tax sanity.

This also means, government on some level should have some financial stability and sanity! Costs keep going up, every year as spending goes up every year. This is NOT sustainable, and it's not smart. I don't mind spending, but there's something called Fixed Spending and Voluntary.

Fixed Spending, is the money that HAS to be spent. Ideally, you'd like for this Fixed Spending to be at least 25% of your budget, but no higher than this. And the advantage to fixed costs, is that they don't increase. And then there's Voluntary spending. Which, is as it implies.

If we were to be technical, ALL government spending is voluntary(since it's of course, originating from the House, confirmed by the Senate and signed by the President.) Not by the people themselves, all the people did was vote and give them the authority(in other words, voters are passive by standers.)

At issue here, is that the Social Programs are rising in costs. Everything from Social Security, to Medicaid and Pensions. These fixed costs are actually RISING when the whole advantage to a fixed cost is supposed to be the 'fixed' part in it. Now, I don't besmirch the people who need/use those programs.

After all, I'm a proponent of privation. Which isn't bad. **gasp** Wouldn't you rather that money in your hands? I think people can manage their money better than a company can, and certainly a hell of a lot better than the government can. So it's about time to give the people their just-deserved dues. Trust the people to make good decisions.

And then empower the people to make good decisions, we need to think logically about how Donald Trump is able to screw people over. Is it because Donald is smarter than others? No, not really. Is it his inheritance? That certainly did give him an edge. But the biggest thing, is his advisors.

That's the single YUGE advantage every businessman/woman has over the peasant class. It's why the Communist Revolution failed. Because after the Communists seized the product of their labor, they were like 'Okay, what do we do with it?'. The results, as we know weren't exactly pretty.

But I'm not exactly pure capitalist either. I'm not part of the 1% big fat cats, and even if I get the financial wealth I desire personally I still won't be. I was born a middle class American, and I will remain ethically true to being a Middle class American even if I get the kind of earnings I want. I don't believe in class warfare.

As a Fascist-Technocrat, I believe in a centralized economy and a centralized world. We should have State advisors, to advise the people on how to use their money. That way the middle class gets the same resources as the rich and wealthy. We should have a slash fund for workers who want to become entrepreneurs and therefore be able to translate into being their own bosses someday.

Which will not only mean fixing the wage problem, but will also translate into rising up the ranks and creating numerous new jobs! By fixing our clogged up economic system, I would have done more for the Economy than 100% tax rate. Wanna know what else? Because people's wages went up, their ability to pay taxes went up. If government's finances can be maintained, and spending can be on efficiency, not pet projects. We can REALLY start to move in the right direction.

I'm not even looking at taxes. Bigger freaking fish to fry Iriemon. Bigger fish to fry man.

 

History repeats itself.

I guess the only question is, who will be the next Democrat to clean up the mess that the GOP president leaves?

 

Here's what the Donald Trump said in 2004: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCB6RvRojIQ

That was, of course, before Trump had to pretend to be a conservative/Republican to pander to low information right wing voters.

 

Lol! The OP forgot to tell us that part.