I went three times for two weeks each visit ... I remember the olive trees and almond trees, pomegranates... There were lots of Muslims and Christians living there. - - - Updated - - - How long do you think it would take for a missile to cross the West Bank.. Your argument is an excuse.. Read Martin Van Creveld.
In 67' no one controlled the WB (controlled I mean that this control was recognized and legal). Therefore, there was no nation that you can say Israel took it from her. Hence, according to Article 2 of the Fourth GC, the WB since 67' is not an "occupied territory". and the point is....? I also remembar the olive trees, and....?
Is your head soft? What is the narrowest section from Tel Aviv to the WB? Like ten miles? With the high ground advantage even a half ass decent army can cut Israel in two. I know this might be difficult for some to grasp but geopolitics isnt based on intent, but rather capability. Israel is not, and right so, going to give anyone that kind of capability. Besides where would they fall back to? The Mediterranean? Get real.
You agreed that --in fact -- Jordan annexed the WB in 1950. This negates the remainder of your premise.
I've never done it. I said that Jordan illegaly annexed the WB and that Jordan never had world recognition about that annexation.
Why do you keep mentioning a military historian? Is he going to knock the WB ridges down? Does he swear they can never be used to threaten Israels existence? Probably not. The best guarantee they have is to keep the ridge.
If the Israelis were smart they would get out of the West bank, return Golan to the Syrians and Shaaba Farms to the Lebanese. Israel claims it has nukes aimed at every European capital.. Why should they worry?
Return Golan to the Syrians!? Do you even recognize Israels right to exist? Are you pretending to have a clue? Israel rightly captured the Heights after Syria attacked it mainly do the fact that it is their main defense against an army reaching the coastal plain where their population is. This is part of their core strategic interest as Israel has no strategic depth. It has no where to fall back and you want her to give up some of its most important core strategic defense? Like I said in my first post. Insane.
I don't recognize any right to colonize land taken in war. Its against the law. You know the Israelis destroyed over 60 Druze villages in the Golan.
How do you feel about America? Does that country have a right to exist? This is a race to the bottom and youre the only one running.
The rules have changed since WW1.. Our treatment of native Americans is not something to be proud of.
Well that is the point isn't it? Why would you return something that could be easily used against you? Just because Syria is hell on earth doesn't mean the tactical/operational situation will always be that way.
What rules? The only one for any nation is survival. The international order is by nature anarchic, there is no higher power but oneself. You want Israel to ignore it's own core strategic interest. It's like asking Russia to ignore NATO on it's border, China to ignore foreign powers in the South China Sea, or America to ignore a Russian naval base in Cuba. Just asinine. So sad!
Arabs have 22 countries !! Tens of millions of acres !! Why should they be given more land from the mini tiny state called Israel ? Also please send proof to what you wrote "Israel claims it has nukes aimed at every European capital." or back off.
None of which in any way negates the fact Jordan -in fact - annexed the WB in 1950. - - - Updated - - - Cite, please. - - - Updated - - - Hmm. What happened to East Prussia? Should Poland give it back to Germany?
It doesnt negate that Jordan illegaly annexed the WB and that Jordan never had world recognition about that annexation.
Because the eastern European zionists stole the land, how many countries Arabs have is completely irrelevant.
The land didn't belong to the Jews and it wasn't part of Jordan, but Jordan administered it.. What exactly is your problem? The families who lived there dated back 2000 years to Arabs, Jewish converts, Crusaders, Turks and Greeks. The European Jews and Russian Bolsheviks were seeking sanctuary in a world that was cruel and turned them away.. so they crapped all over the Arab Muslim, Jews and Christians who had always lived there.
There iscontinously Jewish existance from the time of the Zogot (couple), around 350 BC, til today. The Arabs as we all know today, came to the Land of Israel only in the 7th century. "My problem" is that Jordan never controlled it legaly and had a world recgnized about it, thus in 1967 Jordan was not ts "another high contracting party" in the WB, as I showed earlier to TOG6 with international experts and a judge that was in the ICJ. Hence, the WB is no "occupied territory" since 1967, because it does not fulfill the term of "What is occupied territory", as it was laid down in the Fourth GC.
There were ALWAYS Arabs in Palestine and the Levant.. long before Islam... They stayed .. they didn't move to Europe or Turkey or Russia or North Africa. The Europeans who moved to Palestine.. spoke many languages.
