Do you believe there will be another US Civil War in the next 100 years? I do.

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Do you believe there will be another US Civil War within the next 100 years? I do.

  1. Yes. The US will be in Civil War within 100 years

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  2. No the US won't be in Civil War within 100 years

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    61.9%
  1. politicalcenter

    politicalcenter Well-Known Member

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    From what I have heard (with no real proof). China does a fair job of censoring information. I do agree however that to change the last election results because of supposed Russian hacking would be a problem. But it is not only Democrats trying to change the results. Republicans are also on board. The establishment is scared of Trump.
     
  2. A random man

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    Oh now hold your horses there. Rural people are just as elitist against urban people as Urban people are against rural people. The two groups are the largest windbags in the universe. Truth be told both rural and urban people are cultural elitists who think their ways of life are superior to all others (not true).

    I've sat and listened to rural people talk about how stupid big city people are then get intellectually butchered by one a few moments later and the response is always some pitiful little "Well that person doesn't understand how it works around here" nonsense excuse.

    I've also seen urban people who trash rural people who I know have never even been to a rural area and don't have a clue what they are saying, they're simply spouting off from some big city cultural talking point because they're ashamed of their ignorance about regions outside of their city comfort zone.


    The truth is both rural and urban people tend to be stuck up jerks until they're called on their BS and then they clam up real fast as the little (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) they are. I've met some of the toughest people in my life from inner cities and some of the toughest, nicest from rural places nobody's heard of. It just depends. One thing's for sure, both urban and rural have some very tough people but neither knows that and when they find out it's usually a very rude awakening.
     
  3. gamewell45

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    No, I do not believe there will be another civil war in the next 100 years.
     
  4. Deckel

    Deckel Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why would Mexicans sneak into America just to make Texas part of Mexico again?
     
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    Seth Bullock Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't think your observation of the difference between northern and southern Texas makes a very convincing argument that a civil war is coming.

    In spite of our political and regional differences, America is a beautiful and wealthy nation, and we are fortunate to live here. We've got better things to do than to turn it into Syria.

    [​IMG]
     
  6. Dispondent

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    I doubt there will be another civil war any time soon. Liberals seem to have gotten Jefferson's quotes all mixed up and think they need to water the tree of liberty with the tears of tyranny...
     
  7. Crawdadr

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    No there will not be any civil war. After the Trump win thousands of people protested. The biggest was around five thousand in New York. The Walking Dead premier party in LA had that many people as well. Not to mention 17 million viewers. As long as more people are interested in Zombie tv show premiers then protesting a presidential election of a man most people dislike we are fine. To be frank we are to prosperous, self absorbed, and connected to contemplate destroying our country by fighting ourselves. The only time I ever hear about such nonsense is on internet forums and well that's it.

    For there to be a civil war we would need an upheaval of biblical proportions AND it would have to benefit a large part of the populations at the detriment to another large part of the population. Which at this point I do not see happening. It would have to be something like a world wide plague that kills millions quickly, a nuclear attack that leaves half the country unusable, or perhaps a natural disaster that displaces tens of millions.
     
  8. BillRM

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    No need for a war to dissolved the union as it could be done by the states calling a constitutional convention in a peaceful manner similar to the UK leaving the EU.

    For myself, at this point, I would love to see the red states go their own way an take Trump and future such demagogues with them.
     
  9. A random man

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    I think you're misunderstanding my point.


    Demographics will usher in the next civil war.


    Try to imagine in decades to come when over 70% of California, Texas, Arizona, Florida, Nevada, New Mexico are Hispanic. Now try to imagine the Anglo minorities reactions politically and socially to that reality in the future. Any of you think Trump is even remotely radical or hardline compared to what's coming on both sides in the future? Trump is a mere moderate compared to what the future unhappy white minority will usher in politically as well as what the future Hispanic demographic will usher in politically and socially via their differing cultural norms and expectations.

    None of us can fully fathom just how radically different the US will be from demographics in even 40 years. The change is too radical to quantify frankly in any measurably accurate terms.
     
  10. BillRM

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    Nonsense as a matter of fact I live currently in the south florida area where the majority of the population and even the citizens was born outside the US on foreign soil.

    No sign that there will be a civil war now or in the future due to this large Latin population.

    Take note that the below figures was for 15 years ago and it is must more so now.

     
  11. FreshAir

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    no different then the republicans and their tea party Bundy nonsense, taking over federal buildings and such, hatin on the Obama admin
     
  12. Durandal

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    I don't think the Bundys ever had very strong support. Their cause was highly dubious.
     
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    There was a humor about that before November 8,
    but the Presidential victory quashed it.
     
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    No, the modern surveillance state and the sheer power of the government as a whole would crush any insurrection early on, for a civil war to work you need mass support and the will to fight it out to the end traits now many Americans don't care to have when dealing with its own government as in why bite the hand that feeds you. And once one got organized to some degree the government would sweep in and wipe out the threat. The laws against Terrorists is severe and toss out the Constitution they will just make leaders disappear and mute them. And as an American on government benefits being disabled why would I support a rogue element of citizens out to hurt me, I would see paramilitary forces as clearly against the legitimate government and criminals and back stopping them. Most Americans would.
     
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    Hell, at the rate things are going we might have a civil war starting in the next 100 DAYS! Now we've got all this "Clockwork Orange" crap breaking out in shopping malls. What in the hell is happening in this country? We've become a nation of idiotic, out-of-control robots who take their orders from other idiots on smartphones. I have as little to do with any of this (*)(*)(*)(*) as possible!

    [​IMG]. "Don't know about any "hundred years", but I'll probably be here after a hundred DAYS...." :whisper: -- "Just stay the hell out of shopping malls!"
     
  16. Nordic Democrat

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    I voted No, but I do think this country is far too large and diverse to remain united. We really are united in military only at this point. I wouldn't mind seeing the US eventually dissolve into different autonomous nation states.
     
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    It certainly seems to be the case, and the election didn't help matters.

    Having lived in both personally I have more respect for Rural residents, they seem more independent and capable, fix your own car/roof types vs the dude that thinks you get a flat tire fixed by calling AAA.
     
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    I agree with your first points. However I want the country to stay united as I think that's best for the future outcome I want to personally see.


    Most of us don't truly realize America is really only united on its military and even that is controversial among many now.


    The West Coast is rich, elitist, non-traditional new money with liberal/progressive values and secular. The East Coast is rich, ultra elitist, old money traditional with liberal progressive values and secular. The South is religious, less wealthy but still prosperous, traditional based, conservative, anti-progressive. Middle America is largely the same as the South. Florida is Cuba. Appalachia is its own primordial world lost in time. The South West is soon to be Mexico and is in utter chaos. And Alaska is the last redneck kingdom refuge of sorts I suppose. What an odd mix. And Canada is soon to be 45% Asian in coming years. It's all very interesting to be sure.


    I still firmly believe the civil war will begin in the South West. The rest of America doesn't truly realize just how radically the American South West is transforming from an Anglo world to a Latino world and how that mega shift will hit off major racial/cultural/economic conflict once the real Mexico starts to manifest in those states.
     
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    No war. Any redneck rebellion or urban uprising will be met with overwhelming technology. Think robots and drones keeping the peace.
     
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    Might be that the red states simply kick the blue states out.
     
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    Not a civil war as you know it, however with Jeff Sessions AG at the helm your law enforcement is going to get even tougher on blacks in America. Likely end up with a lot more in jail than you currently have and in the long term.... like home growing your own American terrorist group.
     
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    What you'd most likely have were autonomous nation states that were weak and ripe for takeover by any foreign power who has a desire for conquest. Be careful what you wish for; you might actually get it.
     
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    I am hopeful though that the nature of that civil war may be very different, much less
    violent than we might tend to be worried about.

    A massive civil war within North American Christianity and other major types of spirituality
    could be quite peaceful...... as far as there not being
    much blood shed by the conflict.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/religion-philosophy/466071-great-christian-civil-war-donald-trump.html

    The Great Christian Civil War and Donald Trump.

    .......
    The political divide between the left and the right could result in
    an exodus out of cities by the people who might tend to vote G.O.P.
    Again, this division could be relatively peaceful and could even improve the
    overall economic picture for the USA.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/econo...ter-fed-policy-pay-off-usa-national-debt.html

    Could a real estate boom plus better Fed policy pay off USA national debt?
     
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    The thing is federally we are very strong. If one or two states or even three or four decided to break away it'd be squashed. However at that point a civil war has happened. There is two wars I imagine could happen.


    1. A war probably initially low grade and not sanctioned by any states that will be a guriella but later state sponsored war in the American south west. This will be by Hispanics in the southwest in southern California, Arizonia, New Mexico and possibly parts of Texas, and will be indirectly supported by Mexico. Those areas have a 30-50% Hispanic population now and 70% know some Spanish. The numbers of Hispanics will continue to rise; by 2040 whites will be a minority and Hispanics will make up 20-25% of the population. By 2040-2050 the percent of hispanics will increase to 50-60% of the population with most knowing Spanish. These areas will feel alienated from the white East and want to get back with Mexico. Mexico will be more powerful (it's expected to grow economically considerably) and will seek for a while to not get involved as they would be too weak. They will support the movement with weapons and political support initially.
    Eventually it may reach full scale war, but only when or if Mexico develops nukes or they're gone in the future. The conflict will last for a while, and congress may okay them leaving the union to settle the conflict. There will at the very least be a low grade insurgency and much political wrangling. Other countries in South America may join in on Mexico's side.

    2. The second is from a possible radical Republican movement based in the south. This is more likely if the Dems become the primary federal party. This looked more likely one year ago with Clinton poised to win and extinguish the Republicans federally. If in the future 10-20 years from now the Republicans are ousted federally, the south will be inflamed. They're may come a time when they try and leave the union again (the south will rise again)! Things are looking good for the republicans so it's difficult to determine whether this will happen- if their dominance is ended in the house Senate and presidency again it is possible.

    A political scientist (Last name Friedman) posted a book called America; the next 100 years, and in it he suspects what I said with Mexico. I got it from him. Do your research if you disagree

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    The second if it does happen will have the support of state national guard's and local units of the army
     
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    It is true that America is much more divisive. This started in 1988 when FOX News came on the scene with all their anger-inciting lies. They became the most-watched cable news network in 2000, during the recount. The lies work for them, and they just keep on coming.
     

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