Report: Putin, Russia Tried to Help Trump By 'Discrediting' Clinton

Our political crooks are no better than yours. Sorry mate, you won't win that one.

 

Yet this is politics.....not philosophy 101.

 

You don't have to be in physical possession of a server to inspect it.

Your weak rationazations carry no weight.

It is now clear that the Russians fed Wikileaks specific information on one and one candidate only with the express purpose of helping Donald Trump's campaign.

They wanted a weak blowhard, with no experience, no respect and no character. Someone that Putin could push around.

That's what you voted for.

 

I'm no IT guy by a long shot..

But if what you say about the server is true, then why

do our law enforcement agencies seize them?

I am sure I have heard of this before.

It is not clear the Russians had anything to do with this.

Just more Fake News meant to prop up the lefts lame excuses.

The weak blowhard, with no experience, no respect and no character. Someone that Putin could push around

was obama and hillary would have been more of the same.

That's who you voted for........

 

There can be no denying that the contents of the DNC emails and the campaign manager for Clinton, Podesta, showed that Clinton was cheating in the primary and making herself less than worthy to Americans. Russia did not hack the emails. Trump did not discredit Clinton. She did that all on her own.

 

If the Trump election taught us anything, especially with Brexit, it's that pollsters are as worthless and politicized as US Intelligence.

The WMD fiasco was terrible, I think about it every time I see a dismembered vet. Thank goodness we have all, including the PEOTUS have become much more skeptical of our politicized leaking crap to influence American Opinion, dirty "intelligence" bastards.

 

Prediction: The KGB thug will continue to prop up the Novelty Act in his hysterical attacks on the US intelligence services.

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Nah...I find John McAfee more credible when it comes to cyber security than any CIA/FBI operative. Neither CIA nor FBI is independent. They've been politicised in order to suit personal agendas, not the national interest. Shame.


'It's a FALLACY' John McAfee shuts down 'manipulative' FBI claims of Russian hacking
CYBERSECURITY tycoon John McAfee has blasted claims Moscow was involved in hacking the US presidential election, insisting it was “not the Russians”.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/748523/john-mcafee-blasts-fbi-over-russian-hacking-claims


By the way, John McAfee also said that only high level retards could possibly believe into Obama's administration narrative without seeing a single shred of evidence. No evidence whatsoever.

 

Or, maybe they didn't want WW3.

 

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He [Putin] nodded slowly and confidently before reciting a litany of humiliations that the United States had inflicted on Russia. Putin reminded his audience about the sidelining of Russia during the 1998 war in Kosovo and what he saw as American meddling in Ukraine more recently.

Returning to the Panama Papers, Putin cited WikiLeaks to insist that "officials and state agencies in the United States are behind all this." The Americans' aim, he said, was to weaken Russia from within: "to spread distrust for the ruling authorities and the bodies of power within society."

Though a narrow interpretation of Putin's accusation was defensible—as WikiLeaks had pointed out, one of the members of the Panama Papers consortium had received financial support from USAID, a federal agency—his swaggering assurance about America's activities has a more plausible explanation: Putin's own government had been preparing a vast, covert, and unprecedented campaign of political sabotage against the United States and its allies for more than a year.

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http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a49791/russian-dnc-emails-hacked/

 

Emails aren't stored on the computer unless you save them. They're stored by the ISP I think. Obviously, you have to be online to get access to them. I think the reason LE seizes them is so they can use them to look at those emails without having the hassle of forcing the ISP into releasing them. But I'm not an IT guy either.

 

DJT is just not going to be bullied. You've got to like the guy.

The Republican candidate unexpectedly defeated his Democratic opponent in November's contest but he has been sceptical of the hacking accusations and called the controversy a "political witch-hunt".

Having a good relationship with Russia is a good thing, not a bad thing. Only "stupid" people, or fools, would think that it is bad! We.....
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) 7 January 2017

have enough problems around the world without yet another one. When I am President, Russia will respect us far more than they do now and....
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) 7 January 2017

both countries will, perhaps, work together to solve some of the many great and pressing problems and issues of the WORLD!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) 7 January 2017

http://news.sky.com/story/donald-trump-only-stupid-people-want-bad-us-ties-with-russia-10721112

 

What and how helped him?

 

And Craig Murray who just appeared on RT, for MSM will not even talk to the guy, said he KNEW where the leaks came from, and it was an American insider. Ray McGovern an ex CIA guy even knows when Craig got the leaks in DC, the day, the time of day.

But why would MSM talk with Murray, when he would blow their being played for fools, willing fools, out of the water. Never allow the man who knows where the leaks came from, on the air. Journalism? LOL So, no countervailing voices to tell americans the truth, yet we have the internet and we have RT who will let Murray speak. So now Murray, and Ray McGovern, one a prior UK ambassador, the other an ex CIA analyst, are revealing the truth, the ruse, and MSM is in a blackout. Hmmm. Who told them to keep these men off the air? Someone did. For what they reveal is one helluva story, and reveals ethical corruption in our own gov't. Yes, after seeing the truth of the DNC, and Hillary, we sure do not need to think the entire system is that corrupt!!! We don't have high level retards, we have liars, deceivers, who think they can treat the People like mushrooms. Keep em in the dark, and feed em bull(*)(*)(*)(*). It just so happens the Hillary voters prefer the darkness and the taste of bull(*)(*)(*)(*). Obviously.

 

Why would Trump want to make everyone peasants? Why would that be in his own self interest?

 

Which makes the Russian phishing thing even more questionable. If you're emailing PASSWORDS in broad daylight, anyone who can crack data(not even hacking at this point people, merely decoding the emails itself.) would have gotten the information they needed.

Now, I'll acknowledge that the intelligence community has identified Russian software. However as mentioned: Hackers can mask their ISP, they can hide their tracks. And they can easily interpret foreign software and use it for their own purposes. It might be Russians, or it might be an English Lackey on behalf of the Russian Government. Or some other actor who knows about our strains with Russia and uses them as a cover.

Really, you don't know 'who' and just saying Putin gave the 'give go'(and especially without proof) is not enough. If the Russians really did do it, they did an awful job of staying num post-election results. I guess they figured it didn't matter if they were caught or not anymore?

 

IT is very clear that the Russians had a lot to do with it, and it has been known for nearly a year.

You can yell "fake news", but you can't refute anything, so you have no facts to base your fake claim on.

As for your claim about Obama and Clinton. First of all, Obama is no longer President. Second, aren't you one of the right wingers who was yelling out of the other side of your hypocritical mouth that Hillary is a warmonger??????? (yes, you are). And aren't you one of the right wingers who routinely quoted Russian propoganda on this forum (you personally may not have been, but your colleagues certainly did).

 

They were caught well before the election. Of course, right wing media didn't report most of it, and dismissed the rest.

You now have Trump saying that the hacking didn't influence the election (after weeks of claiming that the Russians didn't do it), after weeks of celebrating and promoting the very stories that the Russians were promoting.

Of course, if Trump were a responsible leader, he would be saying that this is a problem that needs to be addressed as a national security issue. But he isn't doing that. He's making it about himself, putting his short term image ahead of the national interest.

Successful hacking of major institutions with the intention of influencing the outcome of an election is a major attack against the United States. But when you have our would be leader, dismissing the threat and denying it, it only enable and validates the attackers.

Which is what Trump, in his short sighted vanity, is doing.

 

It's how he views the world.

If you were functioning under the delusion that he ever cared about people like you, you're in for a sad awakening.

 

Well, let's discuss how it would 'influence' the elections, in this case, airing Hillary's dirty laundry. Back in the day, politicians used to literally run background checks, not because the opponent was fishy, but so they could blackmail the other guy. The only difference in this case, is that it was the Russians instead of some sophiscated campaign by a political operative team against Hillary.

So I don't think it influenced the elections, per say. A lot of people didn't like Hillary to begin with, airing Hillary's dirty laundry confirmed it. All politicians are a POS, but Hillary's on a class of her own. Even you'd have to admit that. Now, here's a gamechanger: If there was an elaborate connection between Donald Trump and the Russians(IE: Remember when Trump said he'd support the Russians releasing the hacked information?).

If in fact Trump is a Russian Agent, or that such collaboration becomes clear(and his Pro-Russian ties such as Manafort and now his appointed Sec of State, are really bizarre in this light in US History), then it's incumbent upon Congress to impeach Trump and let VP Pence(insofar as we know he's not connected to the scheme) to become President.

 

What do you mean by how he views the world, he has written or spoken this somewhere? How do you know how he "views the world" and that it is everyone needs to be made a peasant. He needs a prosperous society for his businesses to be successful. Why would it be in his own self interest to make everyone else peasants?

 

Just part of the delusion. I've no doubt you honestly think I've been "singing Putin's tune." You're welcome to search the forum and see if you find a note of that tune.

 

lol.................times 10,000,000

 

Tainted election, illegitimate president-elect.


TRUTH stings, eh righties...

 

The only thing "tainted" was the Clinton legacy and campaign being exposed for the azzhats they are. The butthurt and tears coming from the left is exHILarating !