5 Year-Old Boy Detained At Airport For Hours Due To Trump Ban

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  1. Talon

    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Before I get started, permit me to preface my remarks by stating that I have been and remain highly critical of our schools and what students are being taught in them. They're not perfect and they are in desperate need of improvement, which is what the incoming administration intends to do instead of maintaining the incestuous relationship between public teachers unions and the party that was previously in power.

    That being said, I don't see how you can honestly pin an individual student's failure to apply themselves and retain information on some "intentional down-playing by the educational system".

    "Seems"? I can only wonder what your perceptions are based on, bob. First-hand experience or assumptions based on what you've heard and read?

    I am a product of America's public school system and I attended a public university, so I will respond to your observations (or accusations) based on my experience in our public schools. As far as History and Social Studies are concerned, I would imagine that our public schools are really no different than the public schools in other countries. First and foremost, they have an obligation to teach students about the history of their own country and people and secondly their own country and people's role in world affairs and world history. Secondly, limitations on time and resources dictate the limitations of what our schools can teach our children. Based on those two factors, it is natural that what little time students have to learn about things like World War II, they are going learn more about their own country's role in that war than the roles of other countries. That in no way constitutes an effort on the part of our school system to downplay or disparage the roles that others did or did not play in that conflict. Naturally, our kids are not going to know as much about the Soviet contribution to the WWII war effort as Russian children would know, and Russian kids aren't going to know as much about America's contribution to the WWII war effort (particularly in the Pacific, it appears) than American children know. Nevertheless, being as how WWII was a WORLD war, American students are taught that the United States fought alongside other countries - most notably Britain, Russia, France and China - to defeat the Axis nations, and not once did my teachers take a patronizing tone or attitude towards our allies and their contributions. In fact, the tone and attitude were quite the opposite.

    Being an avid student of History, I have always lamented how we could only learn a cursory amount of American and World History in school, but our schools had the responsibility of teaching us a lot more than History. That is why, as I grew older, I had to take it upon myself to learn the things that our schools were unable to teach us. No one is going to become an expert on WWII based solely on what they learn in public school. Scholarship demands a level of time and dedication that only an individual can expend on their own initiative.

    That's exactly what you're saying - attention, aptitude and attention are on the schools and what they teach, not the student.

    I'm being completely honest, and you don't need to read all the studies and books about the ideological biases of our professors and the indoctrination of their students to realize this. All you have to do is look at all the clueless young "progressives" who are demanding safe spaces from conservative and libertarian thought and flocking to collectivist bull(*)(*)(*)(*) artists like Barack Obama and Bernie Sanders. You don't get that way reading Solzhenitsyn's Gulag Archipelago, Havel's The Power of the Powerless and Wu's Laogai.
     
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    Whatever makes you feel better about the body count that Marxist regime produced. Apparently the lives of people used by the totalitarian regime to prop it up against another totalitarian regime are OK. Or something.
     
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    You mean you can't.

    I just posted a source from a university website and you've posted nothing but hollow assertion.

    I never said the Nazis were Communist. I specifically referred to Cold War US policy. Do you know what the Cold War is?


    But you're here speaking English. You're probably just mad I know more about the Arabic alphabet than you do.
     
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    Corporal punishment is actually a European thing. Wasn't stopped until about 2003. Still used in small pockets of the USA. The kids that wouldn't break under water-boarding we made Navy Seals out of them.
     
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    I've seen enough of your work. Goodbye.
     
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    I'm sorry you bowed out that quickly. Your belief on the matter clearly cannot withstand scholarly scrutiny, yet you aren't taking that as a hint you were mistaken and should reconsider.

    Predictable.
     
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    Was he alone? Did he have a US passport?
     
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    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The problem with American education is even worse than I thought.
     
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    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    :roflol:
    That is the funniest thing that I've read in a long time!
     
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    Good news when he find his mother really, really.
     
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    How can you claim that wasn't done? That, too, is something that should NOT be publicized. Interrogation includes the element of surprise of the questions and what will and won't block a person otherwise should be secret so a person does not know how to manipulate their answers or any form they fill out.
     
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    I don't disagree with that BUT there were too many instances where DHS and TSA agents were uncertain of procedures themselves and in some cases they were given conflicting information and had to "figure it out" on the fly.

    All I mean to say is that the site supervisors at the very least should have been better trained/prepared for the entire process.

    I don't disagree with the EO or its intent at all.
     
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    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Is this the problem that is worse than you thought?

    ***LIVE UPDATES*** MILO UC Berkeley Show Evacuated As Masked Anti-MILO Protesters Start Fires, Swarm Building
    http://www.breitbart.com/milo/2017/...berkeley-milo-show-police-helicopters-appear/

    Ironically, UC Berkeley was the birthplace of the so-called Free Speech Movement back in the mid-1960s.
     
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    Arabs, that's what group. Why be afraid to say it, when it's an obvious fact?
     
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    Who was this for?
     
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    I would suggest you missed something.
     
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    And what is that?
     

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