Americas Poorest White Town Proves Link between Race and Crime

guavaball · Feb 16, 2017

superbadbrutha said: ↑

There are plenty right here on this forum.
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Yes, there are. With quotes proving it too.

Derideo_Te · Feb 16, 2017

Eyeswideopen1989 said: ↑

Except that they don't. That is opinion and not at all science lolol. Of course you can't tell the difference lolol.
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Ironic!

Your self imposed ignorance of science is not my problem.

Eyeswideopen1989 · Feb 16, 2017

Derideo_Te said: ↑

Ironic!

Your self imposed ignorance of science is not my problem.
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You simply just don't know what science is lolol.

Derideo_Te · Feb 16, 2017

Eyeswideopen1989 said: ↑

You simply just don't know what science is lolol.
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Irony squared coming from the extremist alt right science deniers!

Denizen · Feb 17, 2017

Fake news?

DarkDaimon · Feb 17, 2017

HTownMarine said: ↑

Sure. Little access to government assistance offices. If you don't have a car, there is no public transportation. No grocery stores within walking distance. No service buildings. There's no housing inspections, people living on dirt floors. No WiFi or free Internet.

I'd argue it's easier to live in the city. If you don't have a car in the woods, you're really (*)(*)(*)(*)ed.
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I have to agree with that.

Eyeswideopen1989 · Feb 17, 2017

Derideo_Te said: ↑

Irony squared coming from the extremist alt right science deniers!
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Again, you simply just don't know what science is lolol.

HTownMarine · Feb 17, 2017

Derideo_Te said: ↑

Except that they do!

https://researchnews.osu.edu/archive/badcomm.htm

No significant difference in crime rates between black and white communities with equal levels of poverty.

And that applies to homogenous societies too where everyone is the same race. Areas of poverty have higher crime rates than those with higher incomes.

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See post #187
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Appalachia is the poorest part of the country.

Most of the poorest counties in this country are right around where I grew up.

Yet, crime was nonexistent.

Derideo_Te · Feb 17, 2017

HTownMarine said: ↑

Appalachia is the poorest part of the country.

Most of the poorest counties in this country are right around where I grew up.

Yet, crime was nonexistent.
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http://theweek.com/articles/452321/appalachia-big-white-ghetto

Appalachia: The big white ghetto

THERE ARE LOTS of diversions in the Big White Ghetto, the vast moribund matrix of Wonder Breadhued Appalachian towns and villages stretching from northern Mississippi to southern New York, a slowly dissipating nebula of poverty and misery with its heart in eastern Kentucky, the last redoubt of the Scots-Irish working class that picked up where African slave labor left off, mining and cropping and sawing the raw materials for a modern American economy that would soon run out of profitable uses for the class of people who 500 years ago would have been known, without any derogation, as peasants. Thinking about the future here and its bleak prospects is not much fun at all, so instead you have the pills and the dope, the morning beers, the endless scratch-off lotto cards, healing meetings up on the hill, the federally funded ritual of trading cases of food-stamp Pepsi for packs of Kentucky's Best cigarettes and good old hard currency, tall piles of gas-station nachos, the occasional blast of meth, Narcotics Anonymous meetings, petty crime, the draw, the recreational making and surgical unmaking of teenaged mothers, and death: Life expectancies are short the typical man here dies well over a decade earlier than does a man in Fairfax County, Va. and they are getting shorter, women's life expectancy having declined by nearly 1.1 percent from 1987 to 2007.

It works like this: Once a month, the debit-card accounts of those receiving what we still call food stamps are credited with a few hundred dollars about $500 for a family of four, on average which are immediately converted into a unit of exchange, in this case cases of soda. On the day when accounts are credited, local establishments accepting EBT cardsare swamped with locals using their public benefits to buy cases and cases reports put the number at 30 to 40 cases for some buyers of soda. Those cases of soda then either go on to another retailer, who buys them at 50 cents on the dollar, in effect laundering those $500 in monthly benefits into $250 in cash a considerably worse rate than your typical organized-crime money launderer offers or else they go into the local black-market economy, where they can be used as currency in such ventures as the dealing of unauthorized prescription painkillers by "pillbillies," as they are known at the sympathetic establishments in Florida that do so much business with Kentucky and West Virginia that the relevant interstate bus service is nicknamed the "OxyContin Express."
There's not much violent crime here. There's a bit of the usual enterprise one finds everywhere there are drugs and poor people, which is to say, everywhere. But even the crime here is pretty well predictable. The police chief's assistant notes that if they know the nature and location of a particular crime, they can more or less drive straight to the perpetrator.
There's a great deal of drug use, welfare fraud, and the like, but the overall crime rate throughout Appalachia is about two thirds the national average, and the rate of violent crime is half the national average. Booneville Police Chief Johnny Logsdon is justifiably skeptical of the area's reputation for drug-fueled crime. But he is not blinkered. "We have loggers and coal producers," he says. "We have educators and local businesses, and people in the arts. And we have the same problems they have in every community." He points out that the town recently opened up a $1 million public library a substantial investment for a town in which the value of all residential property combined would not add up to the big lottery jackpot being advertised all over. He does not deny the severity or scope of the region's problems, but he does think that they are exaggerated by visitors who are here, after all, only because Owsley holds the national title for poorest county. Owsley's dependent underclass has many of the same problems as any other dependent underclass, but with a poverty rate persistently at the 40 percent mark, the underclass plays an outsized role in local life.

THIS ISN'T THE Kentucky of Elmore Leonard's imagination, and there is nothing romantic about it. These are no fiercely independent remnants of the old America clinging to their homes and their traditional ways. This is the land of families of four clutching $40 worth of lotto scratchers and crushing the springs on their beaten-down Camry while getting dinner from a Phillips 66 station.

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Using illegal drugs is not a crime in Appalachia?

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jun/17/report-west-virginia-has-top-rate-of-drug-overdose/

Report: West Virginia has highest drug overdose death rate

[FONT=&amp]CHARLESTON, W.Va. (AP) - West Virginia has the highest rate of overdose deaths in the U.S., according to a report released Wednesday, further spotlighting Appalachias festering drug abuse problem that is also fueling a rise in hepatitis C in one of the nations poorest regions.[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]There were about 34 drug overdose deaths per 100,000 West Virginia residents from 2011-13, up dramatically from 22 deaths per 100,000 people in 2007-09, according to the report released Wednesday by the nonprofit groups Trust for Americas Health and the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation.[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]West Virginias drug overdose death rate was more than double the national average, the report says. Citing statistics from the CDC, it found that West Virginias rate far surpasses the second-highest state, New Mexico, which was at 28.2 deaths per 100,000. The national average was 13.4.[/FONT]
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You might like to think of that as crime but it is criminal nonetheless.

HTownMarine · Feb 17, 2017

Derideo_Te said: ↑

http://theweek.com/articles/452321/appalachia-big-white-ghetto

Using illegal drugs is not a crime in Appalachia?

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jun/17/report-west-virginia-has-top-rate-of-drug-overdose/

You might like to think of that as crime but it is criminal nonetheless.
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We're discussing violent crime. Culture has little effect on drug use, but is all the difference regarding violent crime.

Try and keep up.

You said:

No significant difference in crime rates between black and white communities with equal levels of poverty
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I pointed out that that isn't true.

notme · Feb 19, 2017

Eyeswideopen1989 said: ↑

Nonsense. Most of the white community is passed racism.
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Statistics as I posted in my previous post show otherwise.

The black community however is full of racism.
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And this opinion is based on what?

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