How many lies did Trump tell last night? One that got to me was Trump saying that money from other NATO countries was "pouring in", and we now know that was just another lie https://www.yahoo.com/news/ap-fact-check-trump-takes-credit-hasnt-earned-090217927--politics.html "TRUMP: Speaking of the NATO alliance, "Our partners must meet their financial obligations. And now, based on our very strong and frank discussions, they are beginning to do just that. In fact, I can tell you the money is pouring in. Very nice. Very nice." THE FACTS: No new money has come pouring in from NATO allies. Defense Secretary Jim Mattis made a strong case when he met with allied defense ministers at a NATO meeting last month, pressing them to meet their 2014 commitment to spend 2 percent of their gross domestic product on defense by 2024. He and other leaders said the allies understood the message and there was some discussion about working out plans to meet the goal. Only five of the 28 member countries are meeting the 2 percent level, and no new commitments have been made since the NATO meeting." However, the right wing sheep will never understand it.
He has to play it safe with NATO until the Russian connection propaganda dies away. But over the next 8 years US will move away from the dead man walking Europe and pivot to an alliance with Russia. Europastan is going to be the main enemy in the coming decades.
So your saying Trump is a poo-poo head for asking European countries pay their fair share to NATO? Or what's your point exactly?
By one count from The Center for American Progress, Trump made 61 statements. Of those, 51 were false or misleading. You can review their findings and the sources for the fact checks here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...49EOpmb5x60HS9o/htmlview?usp=sharing&sle=true
I like Trump because he's a real person not a politico. Plus how cool is it when you realize you're smarter than the president?
Please spare us the Soros funded link. Typical fact check from your source--- Trump said "By finally enforcing our immigration laws" CAP said "the United States has long been enforcing its immigration laws"
And your bias makes reading comprehension difficult? https://www.usnews.com/news/world/a...ng-but-legacy-also-important-foreign-minister http://www.cnbc.com/2016/12/19/defense-budgets-climb-as-nato-countries-step-up-spending.html
No doubt! Why even care what the deranged Lib think. Their Party/philosophy is in deep turmoil at the moment.
nato will never pay for their security because they give their people generous welfare with socialism. the President at the very least is speaking for the poorer half of Americans, other presidents never mentioned America's wealth going to foreign countries with unfair trade and nato.
The point, exactly, is that the so-called president said that "the money is pouring in" from NATO countries, and it isn't. Not that you care, but it was yet another in an almost infinite list of things he has lied about.
Are you in a position to verify how much money is coming in for NATO defense or do you get all your news from CNN and NPR?
A Progressive site "fact checking" something..... Thanks for the laugh. - - - Updated - - - Somewhere between 11-20 million illegals would say... No..
So those 11-20 million illegals were allowed to waltz across our borders by border patrol? Are the deportation numbers skewed like the unemployed numbers as well?
Hey, I see that I'm not the only one who has seen the similarities of 1984 including the rewriting of history (alternative facts), the spread of fear, the massive increase in production ( cough), fake news, attack on free press - it's as if 1984 is the manifesto
Ok, for a moment let's assuming Trump is lying and the other countries aren't paying their fair share. Should we leave NATO?
Never going to happen. American cannot afford to leave Europe hanging on in the breeze and have them swallowed up by Russia. Putins plan all along is to be able to get at Nato countries, once he has them he has the money to become a superpower again. There is a much bigger picture here, and i'm fairly certain Trump knows this - - - Updated - - - OK, that made me spit out my water. You just won the internetz Thanks for the laugh, that made my day !!!
Do you have a problem with any of the claims that they actually fact check? Or more importantly, do you have any problems with the lies told by Trump? The fact that you know about those estimated illegal immigrants numbers is an example of the immigration laws working.
Obama has deported more illegals on his watch than any other president ! That fact alone is why the liberals protesting deportations have no credibility with me because they were completely silent when Obama was doing it
I looked at the so called "facts" that you are saying originated from CAP, which is an extremely radical Leftist organization. They aren't contradicting anything. They are simply offering up some loosely relative facts, or opinions in most cases, and using them to say that Trump's comments were false. That's not how truth works. Lets look at a few. The link given is just a chart showing, among other things, drug seizure statistics from the 2016 fiscal year. Its not a comparison of anything, its just a few charts showing 1 year's worth of data. And on top of that the marker for how many drugs we seize is not an indicator for how many drugs are coming into the country, its an indicator of how much we're able to stop. This is a logical fallacy within a logical fallacy. Removing illegals opens jobs for American citizens. Giving illegal citizenship theoretically only allows leftists to now count those jobs as "jobs created" but doesn't do anything for the still unemployed Americans that would otherwise be able to fill them. An opinion, and a stupid one at that, not a fact. We need only look to the months of nation wide rioting where Leftists took to the streets to vandalize, destroy, set fire, and commit hate crimes, all because their unchecked emotional bigotry over not having their choice for President gave them justification to do so. Insurance providers are doing exactly what they said they would have to do which is withdraw from the unsustainable marketplaces. States are looking at huge increases in costs because federal subsisies, which had a planned end date, are now coming to bear. The coal industry collapsed when regulations were signed, and it is now rebounding because regulations are being rolled back. For one, this is an obvious attempt at mathematical manipulation due to the fact that criminal behavior is inherent to humanity and there are vastly more citizens than illegals. For two, this is a cowardly way to distract from the fact that Americans are being injured and killed on a regular basis from the illegal invader scum that we import. -- I could go on but I think I've made my point very clear. This list is garbage.
You cant be following the law with that many illegals and that many "sanctuary" cities.. Simple logic. - - - Updated - - - Now that is funny.. MILLIONS of people here illegally and the laws are working /facepalm.. Sorry i dont listen to Progressive crap sites.
Not sure how its calculated but one figure I saw had obama deporting more people than Clinton and Bush combined
Well, the first point is he lied, as usual. The second point is he lied quite often in his speech if you had actually read the article. - - - Updated - - - They didn't care when he was running for office, why would they care now?
