Fact Checking Trump Speech

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  1. Old Trapper

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    Why let it stop with sanctuary cities? Do you remember when corporations like Tyson, and IBP, were advertising for illegals to come work for them, and actually sent buses across the border to pick them up? How many corporations hire illegals today?

    BTW, who do you think is going to pick those crops once the illegals are gone? You? Your children if you have any?
     
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    Why would you think illegals only pick crops? Seems kinda bigoty of you.
     
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    Since 2011, the Obama administration has included in its year-end deportation statistics the numbers from a Border Patrol program that returns illegal immigrants to Mexico right after they cross the border. It is dishonest to count illegal immigrants apprehended by the Border Patrol along the border as ICE removals. And these “removals” from the Border Patrol program do not subject the illegal immigrant to any penalties or bars for returning to the U.S. This means a single illegal immigrant can show up at the border and be removed numerous times in a single year — and counted each time as a removal. When the numbers from this Border Patrol program are removed from this year’s deportation data, it shows that removals are actually down nearly 20 percent from 2009. Another 40,000 removals are also included in the final deportation count but it is unclear where these removals came from.

    https://judiciary.house.gov/press-r...tioncooksthebookstoachievedeportationnumbers/
     
  5. Old Trapper

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    Didn't know I said that was all they do. Do you understand how one uses an example to make a point? Maybe you missed the part where I asked "How many corporations hire illegals today"
     
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    Not sure why you would want to believe anything on a Republican site:

    https://www.ice.gov/removal-statistics/2016

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-39117483
     
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    But if you were smarter than the current President you would be a billionaire like him.

    I'm guessing you're not so..
     
  8. JakeJ

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    The Center for American Progress chart proves that the Center for American Progress is a collection of deliberate pathological liars. :roflol:
     
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    The Center for American Progress analysis is he lied from beginning to end:

    Trump: "Thank you very much. Mr. Speaker, Mr. Vice President, members of Congress, the first lady of the United States.

    Center for American Progress: "That is false. Not all members of Congress were present. Only some members were present."

    Trump: "God Bless America."

    Center for American Progress: "That is false. There is no God."

    :roflol:
     
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    Blacks have actually sued over being denied employment to instead hire illegals.

    This is just more of the Democrats ranting "who will pick our cotton if we don't have our slaves?" reasoning.
     
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    It doesn't take a genius to make a lot of money from a $14 million gift from daddy. A 'small loan' of only $1 million, as Trump called it. Hire the right people, take sound advice, and you can't fail. Unless you invest in casinos which, apparently, can't fail to make even more money. Until they do fail.
    I could respect Trump more if (a) he had started with nothing and (b), didn't lie about how he made his money in the first place.

    http://www.ibtimes.com/how-much-money-did-trump-get-his-dad-small-loan-controversy-explained-2422185
     
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    Yes it does.
     
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    If you read my edited post you'll note that the 'small' loan was actually $14 million. Now, if one can't make any money from that one would be really stupid.
     
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    Invest $10 million at 10%/annum fixed interest and you'll make a fortune in a very short time without lifting a finger, except to make a phone call to an investment banker.
     
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    No, they are saying he is a poo poo head for lying through his teeth :roll:
     
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    Setting aside the 20 million number is probably wrong, you seem to be implying that the existence of any illegal immigrant is enough evidence to prove that immigration laws are not being enforced.

    So take that logic to the next step and that means that Trump is not enforcing immigration laws because we still have illegal immigrants.
     
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    You seem to be implying that the existence of any, or if I give you the benefit of the doubt millions of, illegal immigrants in our country is proof that the US immigration laws are not being enforced or are not working.

    So if you take that logic to the next step, that means that Trump is not enforcing the immigration laws because millions of illegal immigrants still exist in our country.
     
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    Yes millions of people here illegally shows that the current rules are not being followed.. Clap clap.. Here is a cookie.
     
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    I get the impression that you believe you are a clever man.

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    It does take a "genius" to use your money and result in less dollars than you would have earned if you just stuck it into an index fund.

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    Why isn't Trump enforcing the laws of the United States?
     
  20. WalterSobchak

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    So even though the US is still deporting thousands of illegals every month, we are still not following the law? How does that even make any sense?

    Are you under the assumption that a yuge wall on our Southern Border is going to miraculously stop illegals from finding a way into the USA?
     

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