And THAT'S why Republicans Win

He gave consent for the operation. That makes him responsible. No matter that he approved this plan while stuffing his fat face over dinner. The draft dodger in chief can't even be bothered to go to the situation room.

 

I actually agreed with Bush on this one.

What exactly has the fat, draft dodging coward ever done to stand up for veterans? paying lip service to crowds of rubes at his rallies doesn't count.

Like this?
Trump promised millions to charity. We found less than $10,000 over 7 years.

The only thing he ever did for veterans was faking a foot injury so he didn't pollute the military with his stupidity.

 

Yes, this is an example of the party that has the least scruples....the party willing to do anything to win....coming out on top.

The Republicans also win because, when they get control of state legislatures, they gerrymander congressional districts so that the Republican always wins.

Let's face it, there are enough stupid and unscrupulous voters out there to keep the Republicans in power for the forseeable future.

 

Trump is the new Commander and Chief regardless of if you like it or not. And he issues orders to go or not go just like every other President we've ever had. I can understand why you're holding him to any different standard.

 

I wasn't throwing anyone under anything. Simply pointing out why ultimately Trump is indeed responsible for any/all things military.

 

Okay, I'm not trying to put words in your mouth. If you say you're not throwing Trump under the bus on this issue then I'll accept that. But the main-stream-media is most certainly riding this story into the ground as if no US soldier has ever died following the orders of a US President before.

 

I agree 100%. I was just addressing how Trump was responsible for the death, in the way any POTUS, General, Colonel, Etc, are responsible.

 

I just wanted to add to what I just said by putting it in proper perspective of where I'm coming from right now. Since the election there has been this overwhelming push-to-complain agenda. Now I recognize that some complaints are valid/warranted but if complaining is all a person, or group is doing as an agenda then people begin to just shut them out. Complaining/nagging people lose all credibility even if they are making valid complaints. The reason they lose all credibility is because they've made it their agenda to only complain, so people start to recognize that that's all they're really doing. It's like the "Never Cry Wolf" story.

I want you to process that for a minute and then I want you to understand that I never supported Trump (and there are many others like me that never supported him), but because of the ridiculous obsession coming from Democrat loyalist to have this constant agenda to attack him for everything from his appearance to his comments to his actions beginning on the day he first even entered the race and only a six weeks in office forces people like me (that never supported Trump) into finding ourselves now having to defend him to avoid losing our credibility. And the media wants to take daily favor-ability opinion polls for the next four years in a run-up to soften the target for the next election starts to turn voters off, not from Trump but from the media (and anyone else that is doing it).

 

You're preaching to the choir largely here with me. You can read through my posts, & see that I have been preaching this here, since October, but Interwebz wide for the better part of 15+ years.

I appreciate your efforts, & applaud them.

It's a rough path to take, but most great journeys are filled with rough paths..... In the end, it's ultimately worth the blisters.

 

Well, his raid to get Bin Laden certainly went better, and I don't see why the difference would be the special forces fault. Obama did not make a judgement on this raid, deferred it to the next admin to not make trouble. Three amonymous military officials say it was recklessly approved.

 

Any number of things go FUBAR during any military mission. Death happens. EDIT, as a matter if fact, the Osama raid nearly cost the lives of an entire chopper crew, with operatives.

 

I think the tactic started with Bill Clinton and the Monica Lewinsky thing. Was it done before then as virulently?

 

Nowhere near as toxic.

 

How absurd. Democrats presented a Gold Star family at their convention. Was the purpose to honor their son killing in combat? No, of course not. Hilary Clinton USED that family to make political attacks.

To the contrary, Trump praised the lost Navy Seal and offered solice to his surviving wife.

 

Well, the tactics were similar, but IMO probably a bit more sincere in Trump's case. Besides, as Commander in Chief it's part of his position to give such recognition. A medal would have been nice.

 

I'm not sure where or when the trend began but it was getting old when it was just Republicans doing it to Hillary and Obama. Opposing Parties doing such behavior gets old, but its expected. However, it's unacceptable when the media joins in like a wing-man to rally the public. Honestly what happened between Bill and Monica was really no big concern of mine. That was a marital matter between Bill and Hillary to deal with, but his political enemies politicized it (which happens to be the improper motive for seeking impeachment) and Bill took the bait instead of just saying "it's not a matter of National Security or concern." He was already in his second term, it was irrelevant if voters had a moral opinion about him as a husband.

 

Lost a military aircraft. In case you don't know these things are dangerous. You also don't know much about the seals.

 

Did you know the Seals Father never liked Trump and was an avid Obama man from the beginning? Sort of like the News Media.

 

That's because Trump invented the entire 'fake news' schtick as a childish defense tactic against anything, anywhere, which he perceived as a criticism. Criticise Trump and he lashes out with a 'FAKE NEWS' twitter-fest!. What a pathetically thin-skinned individual.

 

LOL, I love the way to the left keeps blaming trump for what they have done.

 

So did you ever hear the phrase 'fake news' until Trump made it his mantra?

 

Haven't read comments past the first post, but I guarantee the responses from the right are along the lines of

"need a tissue"
"we won, get over it"
"butthurt liberal"

Just a bunch of unoriginal, idiotic deflections

 

Since the left wing media made it up? No.

 

I believe it was in Trump's idiotic tweets where the phrase was first seen. Of course you can correct me if I'm wrong.

 

And while the whinery club continues to indulge itself in fantasy- the river of life continues to flow, and desperately needs people to pay attention to where they are going instead of where they have been; to what must be done today to prevent crisis tomorrow- in other words, for government to manage the country, for the citizens to manage their life- not continue to try to resurrect the endless and petty debates of why they lost and were cheated and how fine their motives are and how miserable those who won are. . It's like knowing that the ship can be saved if we all work at it, but one side wants to argue about the size of the buckets we bail with, why they should have to help and who get to be boss. It's like herding cats- they just don't understand that they are creating the problems, not solving them.