Ben Carson just referred to slaves as 'immigrants'

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  1. guavaball

    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    Who cares? He used the word correctly. You really have an issue with the dictionary and reality.

    I see you ran from your uninformed comment on the publisher. What a shocker.
     
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    Obama.

    That's exactly your style or you would have the guts to call him what you've called Carson. Key word. Guts.

    That Obama also called them immigrants. Don't worry I know you wont respond to that as usual.

    I dont have to forgive anyone. Both men used the term correctly. The dictionary aka your nemesis proves that. You just prove you only care if its a conservative who does it when you feel your fake outrage.
     
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  3. The Wyrd of Gawd

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    The link has a lot of comments from people who discussed this issue in the past. They saw the use of the term "immigrants" to refer to kidnapped slaves as BS then and soundly rejected it. But here we are again with dummies like Carson peddling the same crap that was broadly rejected.
     
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    ROFL white flag noted.

    So Obama is now an assclown and should never be heard from again? And why didn't you call for his resignation?
     
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    Never said it. Never implied it so I guess that would more evidence of your not being able to follow along. Along with your dishonesty.
     
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    And that same applies to Obama I guess?
     
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    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    What does Obama have in common with American blacks whose ancestors were kidnapped slaves held in life-long bondage?
     
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    The intention of the textbook was to belittle it, though, make it sound less serious than it was. It's also telling children hey, it wasn't a big deal. Carson was making an attempt to humanize the people involved. But, maybe you're right maybe he is in denial. I'm trying to find other comments he's made on this subject. I can't but then it, the news feeds are pretty polluted with this.
     
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    The publisher included the comments because the Texas dummies told him to do it.
     
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    http://www.newsweek.com/2015/11/13/...urosurgeon-presidential-candidate-389854.html
    http://www.vox.com/2016/4/24/11438042/republicans-abortion-slavery


    It's like the guy can't catch a break. Sometimes it too severe, sometimes it's not severe enough. I've seen other articles where he talks about how he doesn't even like to use the word slavery because of it being controversial. Like the guy isn't even allowed to say how hee feels about his heritage, that **** must be hard, man.
     
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    Oh I thought he was the President.

    No, that's you Guva. How many posters of the President do you have around the house?

    Uh no Pres. Obama is not on the level of someone who thinks Obamacare is the worse thing in this country since slavery.

    Uh no they didn't.

    a person who migrates to another country, usually for permanent residence.

    Well since they weren't considered as a person that is hard to sell.

    LOL, the only fake is you fake ass conservatives with your fake ass words.
     
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    Try again without the obtuse diversion


    You>> The link has a lot of comments from people who discussed this issue in the past. They saw the use of the term "immigrants" to refer to kidnapped slaves as BS then and soundly rejected it. But here we are again with dummies like Carson peddling the same crap that was broadly rejected.

    And that same applies to Obama I guess? You know his applying the term immigrant to slaves, was Obama's crap soundly rejected?
     
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    Who cares what the dictionary says? The Constitution didn't define slaves as immigrants. The Constitution defined slaves as imports and put a $10 per head federal tax on them. It also said that if they escaped that they had to be returned back to their owners. It excluded immigrants from those legal restraints. Immigrants could become naturalized citizens. Imports (slaves) had no rights and could never become citizens even if they gained their freedom.
     
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    The greedy elite did use racism to justify racism to the masses to justify cheap labor Black slaves they had, but now the same kind of greedy elite use anti-racism to justify cheap labor illegal Mexicans they hire.

    It's all about mega-profits, and not caring who is destroyed in the process.
     
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    Obviously, Carson's characterization of slaves vs. immigrants was off the mark, but the biggest offense to me was him calling together hundreds of HUD employees to sit there and listen to his "great philosopher" crap when he should have been talking about, oh I don't know, housing and urban development?

    Do your job, dude. A cabinet level position isn't given to you so you have an audience for your stupid historical lectures.
     
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    White Catholics were victimized too, like in the Nativist riots where there was a basic Pogrom attacks on White Catholics.

    But, the poverty rate of the major White Catholic groups like Italian Americans, Irish Americans, and Polish Americans all are at about 7%.
     
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    Do you have a link? And if Obama did refer to slaves as immigrants he was as much of a dummy as Carson is. If Obama had said such a thing and if I had been in a position to discuss it as we are doing now I would have called him a dummy for his asinine comments. As I said before, Obama doesn't have anything in common with American blacks whose ancestors were kidnapped slaves held in lifelong bondage. He's on the same scale as Ted Cruz in being a real American or any other anchor baby.

    The Constitution didn't refer to slaves as immigrants but as taxable imports and that's all you, or anyone else, need to know.
     
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    http://thefederalist.com/2017/03/07/11-times-barack-obama-compared-slaves-to-immigrants/
    Maybe one of the school board members wrote his speech and was in the back snickering when he read it.
     
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    African Americans who went through such, are in much better shape than those in Africa who had less of that thrown at them.
     
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    Thug culture which many embrace.
     
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    And yet I answered and elaborated multiple times in this thread. Can you follow along?
     
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    We do. But most of the time they are innocent but the left hates them anyways. Ie Michael Brown who was killed justly.
     
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    It's just called critically thinking which you refuse to do.
     

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