Minorities Buying More Guns

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Old Trapper, Feb 8, 2017.

  1. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    I just went by the number of people killed per year, and knowing that "mass shooting" means 3+ dead.
     
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    In the nation of France, in the city of Nice, eighty six individuals were murdered by one person operating a motor vehicle, in a span of less than five minutes.

    The individual responsible for the Virginia Tech massacre managed to kill more than thirty individuals with nothing more than two handguns, and magazines that were limited to ten rounds of ammunition each.
     
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    The AR-15, and countless other similar semi-automatic rifles, have been legal for private civilian ownership since they were first created, back in the early twentieth century, when they were first marketed towards hunters and sportsmen.
     
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    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    And despite the continued repeated narrative and lie, Lanza did not have an automatic weapon.
     
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    Who's threatening to kill all they see? The left?
     
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    Define who is crazy and who gets the right to label you too crazy to own a firearm. Also I believe the NRA fought for the ban of felons from possessing firearms. I personally think that violent felons only should be barred from firearm ownership.
    None is thought Reagan was perfect. He was however the most pro gun president of recent times. Also the rifles you see sold at gun shops are no used by any military. They are semi automatic only. And if we are to be free then we need to be on equal footing with the government.

    That means nothing.

    How many right wing racist nuts are out there? I've yet to run into one.
    How's that going to prevent straw purchases or people with no criminal background buying a gun and then commit a crime with it?

    So you want to ban pistols? And they're called magazines. Interesting enough the second largest shooting in America was done with pistols and ten round magazines.

    Because I own certain weapons does not make me a mass shooter.
     
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  7. Old Trapper

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    As is usual, you took my comment out of context. YOUR comment was ". Paranoia is the fear that most likely doesn't exist. Are not our borders being overwhelmed by illegals crossing the borders?" To which I responded "Not with arms threatening to kill all they see.".

    Please try to focus unless you have some evidence that illegals are crossing the border with arms intending to kill all they see.
     
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    Really? So, the guy that shot the two Indians mistaking them for Iranians, and shouting "Get out of my country", or the one who shot the Sikh shouting "Go back to your country", were not "right wing racists"? And it is getting worse:

    http://samuel-warde.com/2014/03/american-right-wing-death-spiral-denial-racism/

    “The Southern Strategy is a liberal myth! Liberals are the REAL racists! Liberals keep blacks on the Democratic Plantation! Liberals are afraid of blacks that can think for themselves! You’re just playing the race card! Blablabla! Garble Yarble Snarg!” – Standard right wing response to being called a racist.

    When future historians look back at early 21st century politics, they will note that the political right was engaged in a level of denial not seen since since the band kept playing as the Titanic sank. The election of a black man to the White House triggered a response that can be charitably described as “unbelievably racist.”

    Whoops! There I go, playing the race card again!

    But let’s be honest: nobody screams “Go back to Kenya!” at a guy born and raised in Hawaii who lived in Indonesia for 4 years (which is over 5,000 miles away from Kenya) unless his skin color is an issue. If you seriously doubt this, try to imagine angry conservatives screaming “Go back to England!” to a hypothetical President Hilary Clinton. Doesn’t make any sense does it? Neither does “Go back to Kenya!” if race is removed from the equation.

    But try convincing a right winger of that."

    Then you have this:

    http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/hate-on-the-rise-after-trumps-election
     
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    I don't think we need to worry about him anymore - it's pretty clear he knows his positions all derive from fallacious appeals to emotion, ignorance and/or dishonesty, and he doesn't like being called on it.
     
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    I understand there is nothing i can do about the 2nd amendment but I needed to comment on this thread.. You kill anyone on this earth, you'll be damned for all eternity. Basically saying that to myself.. Please God.. Please.. Bring me to Heaven..
     
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    I don't speculate on reward/punishment for the hereafter. I am for the preservation of life in the event I am forced into a self defense scenario. What I do know, it is something I hope never to see again.

    While nothing to do with guns... though I have four decades of martial arts training, I will walk away from any potential fight scenario and apologize, demur, almost any thing rather than fight. I long ago lost the need to compare the size of my manhood. Best way to win a fight I have maintained most of my life is to not have one.
     
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    You know that your unsubstantiated opinion means nothing, Right ???
    It is not supported by any of the texts subscribed to by any Religion or Philosophical belief system, the Murder of innocents is wrong, Self Defense is not wrong and that is what most sane people are protecting as a Right.
     
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    The book of Exodus has a verse stating that if a thief is struck and killed in the act of breaking into a home at night, there is no blood guilt on the person responsible for killing the thief.
     
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    Nah dude. I was made again to inform you people that either situation will indeed taint your soul. Thus making you unworthy to become an angel of, God..
    Heres the thing though... You must make the ultimate sacrifice and that is to be murdered.. By Satan. It won't be by a bullet, arrow, sword... But it will be a projectile.. Conjured by dark magic
     
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    Bible is Satan's brother man.. Take a rib from a man to make woman? He breathes the breath of life into you? Body of Christ? Blood of Christ? Evil.... Evil... Evil.. My friend I will tell you Jesus was the son of Satan. God cast out Satan and the seraphim to the earth which is why the bible exists.. Written by the cast outs and the men that evolved here on earth
     
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    Jesus didn't make it to Heaven.. That wasn't the way... His powers to heal were given to him by the devil Cuz that was his father.. People want to know where hell is were in it.. The earth is forever constant. War, death, reincarnate. War, death, reincarnate. Never to leave earth. Even dying in your sleep to release dmt which you can make to trip is evil... Evil... Evil...
     
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    Immaculate conception which obviously involved a female to become pregnant? God didn't need sex or woman to make people. Devils kid.. David :) cheers. And good luck. I love you
     
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    So much dishonesty in your argument, or in your thinking. Not sure which.

    First of all, as a gun owning liberal who just insulted Muslims you'd just be purged by the left after they got rid of the rest of us, if they had any ability to do so.

    Secondly, the NRA still does all the things you said they don't do, and more. If it wasn't for the NRA your confused liberality would have been stripped of all your firearms by now, and probably a few other things in the BoR.

    Third, Lanza didn't have access to any firearms. He shot his own mother in the head and stole them. "Nothing in place prevented him from having the weapons he did". - That's funny. If your kid shoots you in the head and takes your guns I guess you should have seen that one coming, right? We should all hide our knives too unless our kids stab us to death in our sleep. :roll:
     
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    None of which is actually relevant to the discussion. Nor is it actually found in any religious texts.
     
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    Oh please, call me a liar to my face. No, my facts are real, as real as your denial. Turn off Faux News and Mush Lamebrain and perhaps the fog will clear.

    The NRA is a lobby for the gun industry. They scare people into thinking they must buy guns quickly, or Obama/Hillary/whoever will take them, always a big LIE. The gun industry benefits, and they are the largest funder of the NRA. If you can't see the CORRUPTION in this dirty connection, then perhaps our schools really are failing...

    There is nothing confused about my "liberality", any more than there was about that of Jefferson FDR.

    Snarky bad jokes don't alter the fact that universal background checks would improve the situation. Guns are far too easy to acquire by psychotics and criminals. Where did James von Brunn get his guns? Nobody affiliated with a white-right group known to be prone to terrorism should have guns. If that's not true, then let's make sure every Muslim Brotherhood member in the U$A has a Bushmaster, lol.

    If your kid is crazy enough that you must hide the knives, then your child-rearing skills are as abysmal as your reasoning.
     
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    That is the philosophy I subscribe to. Now a thief... I would not shoot to kill, if possible, since he is trying to steal, not murder. But still, one has the right to self-defense of person and home, certainly.

    Some take the "thou shalt not kill" morality to the point that they'll stand passively and allow someone to kill them without resistance. I respect that point of view, but I do not adhere to it. I will fight back.
     
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    All that NRA scare-tactic rhetoric has backfired, I'd say. Now with the very free availability of guns, a rightwing racist (Trump) comes along threatening minorities, and sure enough, they start buying guns, LOL!!!... just like the white-right nuts did when Obama was elected. The difference is that Obama was no threat to them or their guns, whereas Trump IS a threat to non-male non-whites.
     
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    How does one know what a home invader will and will not do? Robberies have turned deadly, so there is never a guarantee.

    Could it not be argued that in taking such an extreme approach to abiding by the commandment, they are by extension an accessory in the death of anyone else that their assailant may meet with and kill?
     
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    Pray tell how so?
     
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    Such would be more easily believed, if there were not politicians who were constantly drafting, proposing, and sponsoring legislation that would do just that to one extent or another.

    Such would also be more easily believed, were it not for the fact that the ATF tried to prohibit the sale and ownership of specific configuration AR-15 ammunition, on the basis that it can defeat a kevlar vest when fired from a pistol, but no other AR-15 ammunition was capable of doing to exact same. The only reason such efforts failed, was because of significant public backlash that forced them to retract the effort.
     

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