And you think preventing armor-piercing bullets violates your freedom? Whose kevlar vest were you planning on shooting through? That ammo is nothing but anti-Police ammo. You want any criminal to have access to this sort of weaponry and ammo which can outgun the Police. And you wonder why the ultra-2nd-amendment folks are referred to so often as "gun nuts"??? I have guns, but I'm not a nut... I'm a liberal. I want democracy, not the white-right's Blade Runner society.
Do you even know what's he talking about or do you know what AP ammo is? My guess is not a clue. The poster was talking about SS109/M855, standard fare and very common bullet in use with AR15's. Many AR sights use this bullet for standard settings on range finding reticles. BTW what kind of guns do you own? You libs are laughable.
Back to the point of this thread... "minorities" are buying guns. and why is that? But the primary point of interest here is to note that when the white-right nuts get the signal from Rush or Alex or Sean or whomever to start shooting non-whites and liberals, they're going to run up against a very cold hard fact. WE ARE ARMED!!! LOL!!! Your ethnic cleansing will go nowhere.
It is no stretch to state that absolutely every single centerfire rifle caliber on the united states market, is capable of defeating the standard kevlar vest that is designed to protect only against handgun calibers. Even if a rifle round is fired through a short-barreled handgun that is chambered for it, this fact remains completely unchanged. The claim made by the ATF in justification of their plans to prohibit the ammunition, was that this one, single, specific configuration of a common caliber was the one and only configuration in existence that was capable of defeating a kevlar vest when fired from a handgun, while every other configuration of the same caliber would fail at doing such. It was a claim devoid of absolutely basis in reality. Emotional rhetoric devoid of any basis in reality. Inflammatory rhetoric devoid of any basis in reality.
You can point to no such basis being presented anywhere. There is no so-called "ethnic cleansing" effort being made in the united states.
Then you'd go to jail. Clearly you don't understand the law regarding application of deadly force. I would but it's frowned on here. The NRA does defend your right to own a gun and is the only reason you have them still. Gun banning democrats are openly on the record for wanting complete gun confiscation. Hillary is on the record for saying Heller was a wrong decision. If you think liberals would let anyone own a gun you're fooling yourself. You clearly don't understand gun crime either. The average "time to crime" on a firearm is over 10 years. Over 90% of weapons retrieved during crimes are not in possession of the legal owner. The vast majority of firearms are straw purchased by people who could pass a back ground check, or stolen. All it takes to stop the tracing of a weapon is destruction of the serial number on the firearm. Other countries have tried such and failed. We have spend hundreds of millions of dollars on ballistic databases that solved zero crimes. If we wanted to solve gun crimes we would actually start enforcing the laws we have, but no one wants to do that. Stupid asides about my children as an attempt to evade the point are just as bad. When Lanza killed his mother to acquire those weapons I think it's obvious that all your drivel about how he got them is exposed for the ridiculous argument that it is.
Ugh... My man.. Trying to help you. All organized religion is a sham.. Some of the stories in any text old new testament, quran probably happened but shouldn't be worshiped. Moses, Jesus, Muhammad real people. All claimed to be prophets but came after the war in Heaven. The stories are ass backwards Haha. But yeah lie down your dang guns man and surrender. Run away. Run! Do not kill a human for any reason.. Homeostasis.. Peace on Earth. Religion, worship, belief in one God... All relevant to gun control.. All for one!! And one for all!!!!
Pray tell where are you getting your information from? There are some lives that are not precious, and are not worth saving. That is an unavoidable, inescapable fact of life in the world everyone finds themselves forced to reside in.
Smelled cigarettes as I passed by a home with not a human in sight.. You can smoke, get high, and **** on the other side..
Give us an example of this "ethnic cleansing" happening in America. Even if a racist does kill somebody, they do it alone and are not condoned or supported by anybody. Is there a new law that is designed to discriminate against people of color?
The 13th amendment was passed like almost 200 years ago cowboy... And There are a lot of people who speak Spanish in this country. There are a lot of people that are of native decent too. That were here already. One of the results of war. People stay. Marry each other and have children together.. What do,you,think we should do Johnny reb? Kill all people who aren't white?
The Brits, the french gave us guns to,kill each other. Traded guns for furs. We gave the Palestinians and Israelis guns to kill each other. White people have been funding wars for centuries and your wondering where minorities are getting weapons? Um duh!!! We gave them to them!!!!
Paysan brought up race. I was just asking him for proof of the "institutional racism". By the way, I am part Choctaw indian and probably everything else.
... but, as we have seen, your arguments derive from fallacious appeals to emotion, ignorance and/or dishonesty. You know this, as you run away from discussions that illustrate this fact. This is unsupportable nonsense. And yet, Obama and Hillary both openly talk about how thy seek further restrictions on the rights of law abiding gun owners There's a lie here, but it's not from the pro-gun side. You cannot show this to be true. Unenforceable laws do nothing but needlessly limit the law abiding.
Because, apparently, they haven't listened to the left's rhetoric about how peashooters are useless against tanks. The obvious question: Are minorities stupid for buying guns, or is the rhetoric from the left unsound?
This is an appeal to ignorance and/or dishonesty Virtually every centerfire hunting round will penetrate the tyrpica Kevlar vest worn by police.
What do you suppose will happen to a standard police vest when struck by a soft-point .30-06 hunting round? Of course, you could be arguing for a ban on all centerfire rifles -- this would not surprise me.
As has been mentioned, any centerfire rifle cartridge, ie, every hunting ammo in the US, will shoot through an LEO kevlar vest. What you may also not know is that even if a vest prevents penetration, the energy dumped into the torso by close range handgun ammo is sufficient to injure and possibly kill the victim. Kevlar armor doesn't turn one into Iron Man. The police have access to M855 ammo. It's on the shelf in every store that sells 5.56mm ammo. AR-15s aren't that popular for criminals, as they aren't concealable. That's why the vast majority of violent crime committed with a firearm is committed using a handgun.
I thought you were talking about the gun owners killing all they see. And it really doesn't matter whether they are killing us off. The fact that they are here illegally causes enough concern. But to answer your question there have been reports of illegals murdering and/or driving recklessly causing a fatality.
You don't become angels to begin with. Also I like to see the verse where it is a sin to kill in self defense.
