How many genders are there?

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  1. mbk734

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    I sexually Identify as an Attack Helicopter. Ever since I was a boy I dreamed of soaring over the oilfields dropping hot sticky loads on disgusting foreigners. People say to me that a person being a helicopter is Impossible and I’m retarded but I don’t care, I’m beautiful. I’m having a plastic surgeon install rotary blades, 30 mm cannons and AMG-114 Hellfire missiles on my body. From now on I want you guys to call me “Apache” and respect my right to kill from above and kill needlessly. If you can’t accept me you’re a heliphobe and need to check your vehicle privilege. Thank you for being so understanding.
     
  2. dairyair

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    What is gender to you?
    What is a person who has both female and male parts?

    You refuse to answer, and yet you keep on replying to me, on a topic we agree on. Except the definition of gender. Because, you don't have a definition. The topic of the OP is, how many genders are there?
    So what is your answer?
    Why?
     
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    Good for you, Apache. Have a nice life.
     
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    As many as you can think of. It's a liberal lunacy free for all.
     
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    And I'm pointing out objective fact, that liberals put people down all the time. It's their specialty.
     
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    To me gender depends on sex organs :)
    For what concerns people with both sexual organs well...this is some kind of birth defect I guess :tears:
     
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    The argument for those with both genitalia is what gender are they? So, no, I am not abandoning it.
    Since you don't have a definition of gender or refuse to share your definition, there can be no discussion. There are no grounds to start from with you.
     
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    No you don't know what the word objective is, do you.
    The poster who put people down in this thread is not a liberal. That blows your objective fact out of the water.
     
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    OK, so you really don't want to discuss. Have a nice day.

    I asked you questions based on your original response, and you ignored them.
     
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    Just because he is not liberal, doesn't at all disprove the objective fact liberals put people down. It is their specialty. You might benefit from a logic class lol.
     
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    I did answer your question. :omg:
    I think masculine means you have a penis, and feminine means you a have a vagina.
    I know there are very feminine males, but maybe this is just a matter of testosterone :hmm:
     
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    You still don't know what objective means. You could use a class in English language. lol
     
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    Hmmm, maybe just having a penis or vagina isn't the only thing that makes one male or female, which BTW are sex classes, not gender as the topic of the thread is about.
    But it seems hormones also play a role in gender. How masculine, what ever that is, and feminine, what ever that is, someone is, is influenced by hormones in the body. Perhaps even how XY chromosomes aren't paired neatly. Maybe there's a defect in the chromosomes.
     
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    There are two. Anything else is a birth defect or mental problem.
     
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    Please note that the first entry you cited is in language. Like in foreign languages, there are often "masculine", "feminine", and "neuter" words. Note the first definition you cited specifically says ".... of a language...". Let's not be disingenuous - the OP wasn't talking about gender classification of words in a language.

    The second definition you cited says the traits, "typically associated with one sex". How many sexes are there?

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    Two sexes. And if "gender" is the traits typically associated with one of the sexes, of which there are two (again, per dictionary), then there are two genders.

    People these days have been using much more fluid concepts of the term that basically discard the dictionary definitions. And having listened to some people who self-identify as something other than one of the two (or an in between "androgynous"), the reasons I've thus far heard are pretty phoney baloney. The individual would say that sometimes they dress this way, but sometimes they dress that way, and sometimes they even dress a different way! But hey, I have at least 3 different sets of clothing, too.

    The only thing I've heard that seems to me to be an even remotely sane way of saying there are multiple genders is to call gender a spectrum. So we might all be loosely familiar with political spectrums. If you see gender that way, then sure there could be plenty of different genders on a spectrum - but I still haven't heard of genders mentioned in such a way that they actually fit on a spectrum like that.
     
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    Your inability to comprehend is the issue.
     
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    I have always stated there are 2 sexes.
    Just like the binary numbers 0 and 1. How many numbers are there between 0 and 1?
    I view sex and or gender on a spectrum. All my opinion.
    We have masculine males, feminine males, masculine females, feminine females.
    What is the hard line between 100% male and 100% female? Is there a hard line?
     
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    If it's objective, 100% would agree with you. For all evidence leaves no doubt and subjective views.

    objective

    adj
    1 existing independently of perception or an individual's conceptions
    are there objective moral values?

    http://dictionary.reverso.net/english-definition/objective fact
     
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    In short, stereotyping.

    The mysogynist switch has been to replace "sex" with "gender," and then making rules and standards related to sex instead about gender.

    One result, among many, is to define females in the most trivial, demeaning and degrading ways - that being female is only what a person wears and a state-of-mind.
     
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    Are you really asking how many "genders," or how many "sexes" are there?
     
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    Amazing isn't it? How the world is in constant change. How things have progressed since the days of cavemen.
    But, the OP is gender, not sex.
     
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    And yet I am objectively correct. Liberals DO put people down. It's their specialty.
     
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    I was responding to your dictionary reference, which I think you misread. As the dictionary state, both in the one you cited and the one I cited, I think it's pretty clear the dictionary says there are two genders.

    As far as it being on a spectrum - idk. What gender would people say they are in this spectrum, other than man or woman? The few I've heard offered seem to be misplaced, as in people have said they are pansexual or bisexual or what have you, but - heterosexual isn't a gender. Seems that's a sexuality, not a gender. And the other such examples I've heard for people saying they're of a different gender - but the description is basically, "I like wearing clothes that aren't super girly". :/ I never looked at a male who wore skinny jeans and said, "hey, that's a girl" or anything like that. And, when I hear things like that, the whole "gender identity" sounds so incredibly trivial.

    Here is a video - saw this a while back, but I think it shows some of the things I've said about how people define their gender by clothing. And btw, I may have missed something - watched this a while ago and just watched a short bit now to make sure its the right video.




    Perhaps part of the confusion, at least on my part, is in terminology, because of the time I grew up. I grew up around many people who used radically different concepts of the term gender. They didn't use masculine vs feminine, which makes sense to me for that not to match with sex, but they'd actually use gender as "man" or "woman". Again, I grew up with mates who were to varying degrees feminine, and I had/have some feminine qualities myself, but I never looked at them and said, "hey, you're a woman", and never thought of myself as less of a man for not being masculine in every way. Idk - maybe we were just more secure in ourselves growing up.
     

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