Are you proud to be an American?

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Publius_Bob, Mar 19, 2017.

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Are you proud to be an American?

Poll closed Apr 19, 2017.
  1. Yes

    84.0%
  2. No

    16.0%
  1. Publius_Bob

    Publius_Bob Active Member

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    Lee Greenwood is proud to be an American...

     
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    Right after the election results were announced confirming that Donald Trump had won the presidency I flew my American flag in front of my house for the first time since 2006. I flew it every day and night, right through Inauguration Day on January 20th.

    I have not flown it since then....

    We are now clearly in a state of deeply-entrenched, political civil war, and the whole country is going to continue to descend into hateful, treasonous chaos -- not because the rabid, radical Democrat faction is so strong, but because the squish-ass "RINO moderates" are so ineffective, weak, and unreliable. If these miserable, cowardly sons-of-bitches can't even get rid of an unconstitutional pile of s**t like 'Obamacare', then what hope is there that we on the Right can do anything of any lasting value and merit...?

    Ten years from now, the Russia-China alliance will gloat over our withering decay and overall decline throughout the world, knowing that in large part, WE DID IT TO OURSELVES!
     
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    Clearly, many of the political leaders are in an all out sprint race running to the left--away from the U.S. Constitution.

    The news media would have us believe that the country is moving to the right. Beware the news media misinformation.
     
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    For those who can think by head.

     
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    The American Form of Government

     
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    Poll concludes April 19.

    That's the anniversary of the Oklahoma City bombing.

    Are you proud to be an American?
    Yes......36.vote(s)....83.7%
    No.........7.vote(s)....16.3%
     
  7. Just_a_Citizen

    Just_a_Citizen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Unrest In Crap Tim.
     
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    Even with all of our problems, there is still no better place on earth. Yes, I am proud to be an American.

    Yes, you don't have to like everything going on in the United States in order to be proud to be an American.

    Well, then you are not proud to be an American. That's one answer, although it's not the one I'd give.

    Every question asked during an interview is (or ought to be) designed to "discriminate" between candidates. The objective is to ask legally discriminating questions, not illegal questions. Why would asking someone whether or not they're proud of their citizenship be considered illegal?

    I agree.

    What is there to be proud of? Really? How about that we live in a country that affords us the opportunity to live in freedom? How about the marvel that is our basic law, the Constitution? How about that even when we disagree profoundly with many of our neighbors, we still manage to live in relative peace? How about the fact that despite what some would have us believe, the United States and the liberties it provides remain the envy of much of the world? Yes, I'm extremely proud to be American. But I am also profoundly disappointed that so many people are unable to see their country for the wonder that it is.
     
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    Propagandist question.
     
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    Because we don’t live in the 1700s when the borders of the colonies were still under threat. When there was no police force and when the Continental army was disbanded
    leaving the colonies little in the way of enforcing the law.
    When the arms available were single shot muzzle loaded rifles and flintlock pistols and you could tell a man’s value by inspecting his teeth.
    America in the late 1700s was not in any way unique in regards of gun ownership by civilians. In fact firearms were available to civilians in all the European nations, if you could afford the price.

    In fact removing firearms from the streets has been a gradual process until a horrifying massacre happens and a watershed is reached. Public opinion demands a stop to this slaughter and the government responds. That’s what happened in the UK and followed later by Australia. After a short while people get used to the fact that gun crimes diminish dramatically and the prospect of going back to live in a world peopled by armed amateur civilians is met with a resounding NO.
     
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    Weird.

    What are you doing, pushing a buy Chinese agenda?

    I've been a buy American first person for a long time and I've redoubled my efforts lately because I had been slacking.

    If you are American, why would you not want to support your fellow citizens? That's pretty sad.

    Ironically, I made a similar remark on another forum with Mexican instead of Chinese and the poster respindex with "buy mexican, great idea" he moved onto my ignore list immediately. Shameful attitude.
     
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    Weird!! I buy for value of the goods, not for a patriotic gesture, I guess that’s how most of us buy.
     
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    It seems a bit silly to be overly proud of being born a US Citizen. Maybe if I had immigrated or somehow earned my citizenship I would feel pride in "being an American". I am proud of our citizens and our country when we achieve great things. How does that sound? Why would I need to feel so proud of something that required no effort on my part?
     
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    You qualify the question "I am proud to be an American?" with "overly proud" and "so proud" in your response. Why the qualification?

    It's okay if you're not proud of your country. We are a nation of laws under the U.S. Constitution--that is our country. Pride in country is not a requirement to live here as a citizen.
     
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    If you were born here you did nothing to be proud of. Be proud of things you achieve...you did not create this country
     
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    Why would someone ask such a question that is irrelevant in a job interview?
     
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    I'm proud to be an American. I am not proud of my government.
    The Constitution is a beautiful document. The freedoms put forth unique in scope.
    Most people globally like Americans but don't like the American government.
    If real Americans who believe in the Constitution and it's freedoms allow Trump and his ilk to piss on them that could change but as long as the real believers continue to fight injustice the rest of the world will give us time to correct this abomination.
     
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    Thank God that Clinton lost. She would of damaged us irreparably after suffering 8 years of Obama.
     
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    I doubt that a real talent recruiter actually asked the question. But, it is an interesting question. Are we proud of our nation, and our part in it? I'd say, many won't be simply because of their unwillingness to be proud of a system that often infuriates them personally and politically. So, instead of seeing the beauty of that, they rant, whine, sniff, etc.

    There is nothing inherently wrong with being proud of who you are, and where you come from. It's an amazing consensus builder. When we start to say things like, I'm not proud, that's when we know that folks are putting personal above community. It is rather insidious. From my view, dissatisfaction is a personal thing. It can be representative of laziness, smug, contrarianism, many things. But what it shows us is this more personal feeling of either inadequacy or futility from those who express it.

    One of the most wonderful things about this nation is that so far at least, government hasn't squashed our ability to be individuals, even though many individuals demonstrate such abhorrent behavior. The beauty of our system is that the integrity of it isn't compromised by those who, for whatever reason, cannot overcome their personal issues. And regardless of your political affiliation, that truly is something to be proud of. To know that our system endures even though some of us can be so personally petty, and petulant and still survive and provide the platform for the enormous potential that the rest of us have to be better than our stars. Better than a preexisting label. I will say that I've been most everywhere. And to me, there just isn't another place where all of that potent freedom of choice exists married to the stability of our process and our institutions. I'd say that there is so much to feel pride from in our nation. If only one is willing to allow themselves to feel it.
     
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    See, there is hope. The perceived ugly will pass. As you feel today, many of us felt for the previous administration. It does pass. I'd suggest that at least I never worry in this country that I'll end up in a shallow grave just because I'm Caucasian. Living in the DRC has much risk for westerners these days, and even the cloak of good deed isn't enough to shelter you from those risks these days. Stay safe down there.
     
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    It appears most people responding on this forum are proud to be an American. A few who are not proud... And one or two who want to complain about those who are proud. And a couple who want to argue that those who are proud are not justified. Anyone who doesn't like the interview question is free to end the interview at any time and say "thanks but no thanks, I'm not a proud American." There are still patriotic companies hire patriotic employees. It's a fair question in those scenarios, and any other scenario for that matter. Thank you to all the proud Americans who have served in the U.S. Armed Forces, the Police, the First Responders; and welcome home to all the Military Veterans who have proudly served our great nation protecting the freedoms our U.S. Constitution affords the entire nation.
     
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    I'm still proud to be American. How about you?
     
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    Patriotic. There's a word that has been abused. Just what constitutes patriotism. Some would say waving the flag. Yet some wave the flag as a taunt which to others is the greatest desecration of what the flag stands for. Yet others burn the flag when they believe it is being used to symbolize something decidedly unamerican. Would that too not be a high act of patriotism? The founding fathers went out of their way to stress ideals over symbolism. Jefferson said it would be good for the country to have periodic revolutions probably to make sure Americans always question.
    Patriotism means different things to different people. I like Jefferson's view myself.
     
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    Not that you should or shouldn't be, but why are you proud to be an American?
     

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