Killing the Messenger Didn't Work. Bill O'Reilly's Back On Monday

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  1. Wehrwolfen

    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Welcome back, Mr. O’Reilly, it’s been an interminably long week without you
    Killing the Messenger Didn’t Work. Bill O’Reilly’s Back on Monday



    By Judi McLeod
    April 23, 2017

    You can kick a guy when he’s down, but can’t do anything when the technology of the day brings him back up with his signature Irish smile.
    That’s largely because technology belongs to everybody, not just a television network raking in billions of dollars.
    “Less than a week after Fox News announced it would be parting ways with Bill O’Reilly following a sexual harassment controversy, the former host plans to return with a podcast starting Monday. (Washington Examiner, April 22, 2017)
    “Front and center on O’Reilly’s website Saturday was a banner promoting the podcast, set for 7 p.m. ET: “Monday. The no spin news returns.” During O’Reilly’s highly successful run as host of “The O’Reilly Factor,” he typically would begin each episode telling viewers: “You are about to enter the No Spin Zone.”
    “O’Reilly was ousted from Fox News on Wednesday. Speculation had been swirling that O’Reilly would be let go for some time after an investigation by the New York Times a couple weeks ago found either O’Reilly or Fox News’ parent company, 21st Century Fox, paid five women a total of $13 million in exchange for agreeing to not pursue litigation or speak about their accusations of sexual harassment or other types of inappropriate behavior. The women, not identified in the report, either worked for O’Reilly or appeared on his show. The accusations date at least as far back as 2002.”​

    Source: http://canadafreepress.com/article/killing-the-messenger-didnt-work.-bill-oreillys-back-on-monday

    I'm not a great fan of O'Reilly, but I see the usual methods the Progressive Marxists of assassination used here. They have used character assassination in this instance rather than to kill Bill like Breitbart. Progressives may have succeeded and won a small victory, but they have not actually won this one. Remember, daddy Murdoch̀ turned the business over to his son. Rupert is a left winger, too, but he is a businessman first and he had calculated that a conservative cable channel would make a lot of money as a niche producer serving a very large niche. He was right but now Fox is a long extant enterprise and the sons really don't understand Dad's permitting heresy in his business. The demise of FNC has been put into action. They will run FNC eventually into the ground and chase off all their draws, winding up sharing the ratings level with CNN and MSNBC. I would hope Hannity can get himself a good start on a better gig and leave Fox and then the rest of the actual conservatives go, too.
    Great News from Bill O'Reilly. I don't always agree with him but he never let the 'good ole boys" get away with anything. I welcome his continued input - and the best part is Progressive Marxists can't stop him unless the kill him.
    I suspect the women who came up with these allegations, they refuse to come forward openly, that's always a red flag.
    Rupert Murdoch has a big problem with his family. Who will lead? At the present time James seems to be the most influential of the two son and was instrumental in the firings of Roger Ailes and now Bill O'Reilly.

    Lachlan Murdoch (Son)
    James Murdoch (Son)
    Prudence Murdoch (Daughter), son in law Alasdair MacLeod
    Elizabeth Murdoch (Daughter), son in law Matthew Freud
    Wendi Deng ex-wife of Rupert
    15-year-old Grace and 13-year-old Chloe Murdoch​
    Jerry Hall Rupert's new wife
     
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    If memory serves me right, James Murdoch was behind the Phone hacking scandal by News of the World. The resulting public outcry against News Corporation and its owner Rupert Murdoch led to several high-profile resignations, including that of Murdoch as News Corporation director and Murdoch's son James as executive chairman. Now he is supposedly leading FNC and the reason for the firing of Bill O'Reilly.
     
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    I figured he'd go podcast, & likely get time on Fox.

    Fingers crossed he doesn't go all Beck, or Olbermann.
     
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    Wow - a podcast. He must be special. Not many people can start a podcast. Only special people with important things to say can start a podcast.
     
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    You have to admit though, O'RLY's supposed behavior aside, Fox deciding to run the 'Cast shows that they're not completely "against" Bill 100%.

    Well, & they likely see an explosion initially at least, in viewership of the 'Cast, & may regularly air it.
     
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    It probably depends on the advertisers. I don't think FOX canned O'Reilly because of the misbehavior, but rather the advertisers avoiding O'Reilly caused an impact on their bottom line. They had already paid off several women and were fully aware of the charges against him. When in doubt, follow the money.
     
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    Indeed.

    I'd meant to add to my last bit, that there are likely advertisers calling for some type of return by Bill.

    Hell, the survival food advertisers alone are looking at a dip in sales if the public goes all Cold Turkey, (LOL Considering) off Bill.
     
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    Think about it...If just a million sign up, 5M$ a month is not a bad return. IMO, this whole issue is simply efforts by one political faction to shut down another. Admittedly it may be working. Shame!
     
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    The corporate line is always settle these things bad publicity cost more than a law suit. Trouble is once you begin to settle claims without regard to the truth of the accusations the bottom feeders smell blood in the water and you can expect it to become a monthly ritual.
     
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    do republicans still support him?

    or is this just so he can tell his puppet trump what to do still
     
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    He was certainly getting some bad publicity. Of course, so was FOX for paying off his victims. While there are certainly those accusers that will lie for money, there sure did seem to be lots of women telling the same story. FOX protected him as long as they could to keep the coffers full. O'Reilly got his portion of the coffers and a $25Million severance. He needs to ride on out into the sunset with that.
     
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    I know very few people who wouldn't lie if they were in line to collect a large chunk of a million plus dollars, and plenty on the left that would do whatever it took to shut up Bill O'Reilly, and getting a **** load of money into the bargain would just be icing on the cake. Be careful what you wish for though If fox news goes belly up, and it surely will if they continue to dump conservatives hosts, it will be replaced by something probably Newsmax or Breitbart the demand is there. I was a conservative before I ever heard of Limbaugh or Oreilly. Hell I've been pushing for a flat tax since I was in High school and that was in the sixties.
     
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    Like PewDiePie does...
     
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    I think it really had to do with the Sky Net UK deal but money never the less.
     
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    Just in Sean Hannity accused of sexual misconduct by Debbie Schussel.

    It's a bimbo eruption folks....
    On Monday there will be others coming out.
    I understand that Dobbs, Cavuto, Watters, Gutfeld and Rivera may also be named in other sexual misconduct allegations.
     
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    More Likely from James Murdoch's wife a true Leftist. Then again Jimmy hasn't got clean skirts in that avenue of politics. He donated pretty large to Hillary in the 2016 campaign. ITMT, don't forget Jimmy was involved up to his ears in the Sky News Scandal then left the UK for the US.
     
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    I don't know anyone that would make false charges of sexual harassment on the job, potentially ruin their career, and publicly humiliate themselves with the potential prospect of getting paid off by a rich person. Maybe we know different types of people. However, that being said, I don't think O'Reilly was fired over sexual harassment. The facts don't show that. FOX protected him and settled several cases. They only fired him when it impacted their revenues from advertising.

    I don't care if FOX goes belly up or not. No one should have to tolerate mistreatment to keep or progress professionally in news or journalism, or any other job. If there is a culture of abuse at FOX (and it certainly seems to be a culture of abuse there,) they deserve to go belly up, after paying out all their insanely huge profits to the victims.
     
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    This.

    There is no proof of "misbehavior" or "victims". Only accusers - and it's ridiculously naïve to assume none of them may be in it for the publicity or money.

    I've never even watched this guy's show so I don't have a dog in this fight at all in that regard. I'm just speaking of common sense - when unsubstantiated claims can start to result in payoffs and publicity, things can get fishy quickly.
     
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    Sorry but the reality is that dumping on Oreilly is even if you lie is not going to be detrimental to your career not as long as the Alphabet soup media exists.
     
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    Have you ever once considered that O'Reilly might have sexually harassed those women and that he's actually guilty? Then consider that the network paid them large sums of money to settle, so they could keep their "ratings king," despite him being a despicable person to their other employees? Some things are more important than money.
     
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    Well, it now appears that Debbie Schlussel has done that to Sean Hannity. For some reason she has been on a crusade to hurt him for years. Schlussel has been on an anti-Hannity tear for some time, calling him "Sean Vanity" and accusing him of fiscal and other improprieties.
    Once upon a time, Schlussel appeared regularly on CNN and Fox News to discuss the news of the day. She
    posed for a picture with mega-star Sean Hannity, wearing a skin-tight dress that really showed off her ta-tas. She wrote articles that were published in the New York Post, the Washington Times, the Wall Street Journal and the Jerusalem Post. But that was back in 2001 - 2006. Since then, Schlussel's outrageous smears against other conservatives have lessened her credibility considerably.
    One of the biggest targets of her invective is Sean Hannity, who has both a television show and a radio talk show. Schlussel has also accused both Sean Hannity and Oliver North of "
    scamming troops with Freedom Alliance."
    I doubt that shooting herself in the foot, however, will bring about a cure. I suspect that she is professionally jealous of conservatives far more successful than she. Debbie Schlussel has lost enormous credibility.
     
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    What if she and others are telling the truth?
     
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    That's what is great about "allegations", no proof required. The person accused is immediately seen as guilty until it is proven otherwise. It's not surprising that these women were paid off. It's often cheaper and easier to just pay someone to go away instead of allowing the negative publicity to affect the company.
     
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    Or they could be telling the truth
     
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