Wake up, liberals: There will be no 2018 “blue wave,” no Democratic majority and no impeachment

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  1. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wake up, liberals: There will be no 2018 “blue wave,” no Democratic majority and no impeachment

    Lessons of Montana: There's no quick fix for Trump or our damaged democracy — and the Democrats still look hopeless


    We received a message from the future this week, directed to the outraged liberals of the so-called anti-Trump resistance. It was delivered by an unlikely intermediary, Greg Gianforte, the Republican who won a special election on Thursday and will soon take his seat in Congress as Montana’s lone representative. (Here’s a trivia question to distract you from the doom and gloom: Without recourse to Google, how many other states can you name that have only one House seat?)



    If you found yourself ashen-faced and dismayed on Friday morning, because you really believed the Montana election would bring a sign of hope and mark the beginning of a return to sanity in American politics, then the message encoded in Gianforte’s victory is for you. It goes something like this:

    Get over Montana already — and stop trolling yourself with that stupid special election in Georgia too. They don’t mean anything, and anyway — that dude Jon Ossoff? He’s about the lamest excuse for a national progressive hero in the entire history of Democratic Party milquetoast triangulation. Oh, and since we’re on the subject: Forget about the “blue wave” of 2018. Forget about the Democratic majority of 2019. Forget about the impeachment of President Donald Trump. Have you even been paying attention? Because none of that stuff is happening and it’s all a massive distraction.

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    http://www.salon.com/2017/05/27/wak...ve-no-democratic-majority-and-no-impeachment/



    The left needs to cut the crap and confront reality. You lost. You lost because Americans don't want what you are peddling.

    Americans didn't want Hillary.

    Russia isn't to blame.

    You screwed up so bad that even many democrats voted for Trump.

    The cavalry isn't coming.

    Blaming others won't help you.

     
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    I don't think anyone (even the most rabid partisan) thinks that they can take the House in 2018.

    There has been way too much dishonest (and egregious) gerrymandering on the part of the GOP.

    If the Dems could gain around 10-15 seats, and get it to a manageable margin, they could set their sights on a possible 2020 House takeover.

    Keeping the Senate where it is would be a fine result for the Dems.
     
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    We've been seeing the blue wave for over 8 years now. The legacy media, the courts, the schools, the various bureaucracies, and yes, the military have been under attack since Obama.

    I think the socialists understand something that conservatives and libertarians don't. It's war, and the socialists are going to win because conservatives don't understand that they are in a war. We get a non-politician in the white house, but he has to fight the democrats, the republicans, the courts, the media, and a bunch of other people every day. Simple things like not letting in people from certain countries which is clearly his duty under the constitution, and the courts rip the constitution up, and he can't do a thing.

    What have republicans won? Nothing!!! Winning elections isn't winning. Getting things done that conservatives want is winning, and that isn't happening, and I don't think it will ever happen. You can win the senate, the house, the white house, every elected official in the entire country can have a republican in it, and it'll be just like having a democrat sitting there.

    You can say there won't be a blue wave, but I can tell you one thing there won't be - a red wave.

    Taxes are never coming down, government is not getting cut, spending will continue unabated, that wall will never ever be built, just as brexit will never really happen, illegal migration will continue, and conservatives will always lose.

    There doesn't need to be a blue wave because the only difference between a blue wave and a red wave is that the democrats don't have to lie about being conservative to get elected.
     
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    If Republicans actually manage to get their new healthcare bill passed you should expect to see a super majority of Democrats in 2018. Hopefully most of them being real progressives and not establishment hacks otherwise the Republicans could make a comeback in 2020.
     
  5. US Conservative

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    When cornered, you lefties always go into a sinister monologue like the when the bad guys are caught at the end of a Scoobie Doo episode. "I would have got away with it too if it hadn't been for you dang kids..."

    Americans know the post-modernist left are wolves.

    And now they are paying attention.

    Any objective observer of the 2016 election knows this.

    It won't end well for the left, and they always play their cards too soon.

    This isn't 1917 Moscow. Its 2017 America.

    Get a map and calendar to confirm, comrade.
     
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    Well said. The liberals lost because of Hillary. Russia had nothing to do with America not wanting Hillary as our president. She was that bad.
     
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    Don't put the "lefties" in the same category. Most of the the Democrats in office are centrists who are beholden to cooperation. They are the main reason for a republican comeback all across the board. In 2018 you will start to see real progressives funded by the people who will take over the party.
     
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    I'm not sure they will get it past and if they do it will probably be somewhat changed. Having said that the liberals are digging themselves a hole and the media is worse. I don't see the Democratic party even realizing why it lost so badly and they still hint at Hillary running again. The Democratic party has a long ways to go to connect with many American's before they even have a chance at winning in 2020.
     
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    Well lefties and Democrats both support the same candidates so one would think they support the same agenda.
     
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    ZERO chance of getting the Health Care bill passed (as is).
     
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    Fair enough, I see the distinction between liberals (generally free speech, and not nihilists like the modern left).

    But liberals are complicit in allowing this takeover by post-modernists of the democrat party.

    If liberals disagree-they should be fighting for the democrat party-but they aren't

    Whats actually happening-is liberals are being chased off and marginalized (and voting Trump)
    while leftists take over.
     
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    So true. And though its been said for 6+ months, perhaps an article from left-leaning salon is the cue dems need to start some self-assessment.
     
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    If they keep defunding Obamacare they very well could get it passed.
     
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    I agree. The Democratic state run media refuses to point the finger at the person who is actually is responsible for loosing to Trump. They backed Hilary knowing she was a terrible candidate because they would rather loose to Trump than have a real progressives in office (Bernie). If another establishment Democrat ends up winning the nomination there is a really good chance Trump could win again.
     
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    I think that real progressives should just create a new party and distance themselves as much as possible from the rotting Democratic establishment.
     
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    Bro, check the media-she's acting like she wants to run again.

    For the record-I can't stand her OR socialism.

    But I figure both you and I would rather have a straight up race instead of going through Hillary.

    Lets do dee's tings.
     
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    So do I.

    BUT-the Democrat party is mainstream-and the progressives are trying to take it over.

    My question to you though-is how do you suggest the lefty-liberal schism is resolved?

    That is a very important answer-and a volatile one.
     
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    Trump won for much the same reason that Bill Clinton won in 1992. Third party disruptions in the electorate resulted in a loss for the incumbent party. GOP voter suppression also played a role but the end result was the same since it was a "minority win" against the wishes of the majority of We the People.

    That is history and Trump is his own worst enemy and managed to sow the seeds of his downfall before he even infested the Oval office. Flynn and Kushner are probably going to be indicted and the fall out of the crimes committed by Trump to obstruct justice will have lasting implications for the GOP!

    Just ask the question who instructed Kushner and Flynn to conspire with the Russians to violate the Law of the Land? Who was trying to protect Kushner and Flynn by firing Comey? The obstruction of justice is a high crime and failing to impeach will harm the GOP's standing with the electorate once they understand what Trump was doing. Yes, they will spin and twist and misinform as much as they can but ultimately it will be a big negative with a reminder of their failure to uphold the Constitution every time Trump makes another asinine tweet.

    That is the direct political scenario facing the GOP in 2018. Now add to that the inevitable recession that is overdue already with all signs pointing to it happening some time between now and November 2018. The layoffs will be more painful without the ObamaCare safety net and that has already angered the Republican side of the electorate and it will be a prime motivator for the Dems.

    Do we need to point out that the party in power is always blamed in off year elections?

    Yes, the Dem party in and of itself is in it's usual state of disarray and chaos but that isn't new. They managed to win the House in 2006 against all of the odds. Not predicting that the House will change hands because of the GOP gerrymandering but the margins in red states are going to be razor thin even with that gerrymandering. That is not a comfortable place to be when you have to explain to your unemployed constituents why you took away their ObamaCare and gave them TrumpDoesn'tCare instead.

    2018 won't be a "blue wave" but it will be a wake up call to the GOP to get it's act together or have to deal with the consequences of an electorate that will turn against them sooner rather than later.

    Just being in power is nice but actually having to exercise that power for the benefit of We the People rather than the greedy Wall Street Casino Bosses is no simple task given the serious dysfunction in both the House and the Oval office.
     
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    The divide will end the moment politicians can't be bought by corporations and wall street. If regular people are the ones funding these politicians then the politicians will represent the people.
     
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    I think Hilary would get smoked in the primary if she were to run again. Elizabeth Warren and Tulsy Gabbard would have a field day with her.
     
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    You people are like Sharon stone in casino
     
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    The problem with the DNC isn't the progressives but the liberals. It wasn't a progressive giving a speech about income inequality in a $13K designer jacket paid for with money from giving six figure speeches to bankers.
     
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    Name the 3rd party. And substantiate your claims of Russians.

    Much to the lefts chagrin-the Russians aren't coming.
     
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    Let us not speak in riddles. Both Sanders and Hillary were bought. "quanto?" was all that had to be asked.

    So when's it gonna happen? 2018?
     
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    I like Tulsy-because I think she means it. I didn't even think Sanders did (he's got a bunch of nice homes).

    But what lefty will stand in the way when Hillary tells dems how its gonna be?
     

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