Fascism on rise in poland

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  1. Guno

    Guno Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Scratch an Islamophobe and like as not you'll find an anti-Semite:


    The chairman of Poland’s recently elected Law and Justice Party, Jarosław Kaczyński, claimed refugees brought cholera and dysentery. The week before the EU vote on refugee quotas, thousands marched in cities across Poland, some chanting: “Today refugees, tomorrow terrorists!” and “Poland, free of Islam!”19 At a rally organised by the fascist National-Radical Camp (ONR) in Wrocław, one speaker declared: “We won’t take a single Islamist into Poland because Poland is for Poles”. The rally ended with the burning of an effigy of an orthodox Jew as the crowd chanted: “God, Honour and Fatherland” "
     
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    he cant be too extreme hes is right handed [​IMG]
     
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    To the left, anyone to the right of Marx is a fascist.
     
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    No wonder they applauded Trump.
    And we thought it was just another Polish joke.
     
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    Wondering if the definition of islamaphobe is anyone who chooses not to follow islam.

    ?
     
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    Seriously, they basically do not want to see the same immigrants in Western Europe inside Poland and people are screaming Fascist at them

    The world is a funny place I tell ya
     
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    Do we have to "liberate" them now? Have the CIA arm political opponents of the establishment?
     
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    You already liberated them once, quite hard. To such point that they still desecrate remaning graves of soviet WWII soldiers.
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    People who died before war ended, who died on Polish soil. It's not like their names matter, not like their sacrifice worthy of memory. Unlike USA memorials in Japan.

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    You're surprised somehow after all the support shown to anti-soviet sentiment? ANY anti-soviet sentioment, without bothering to check what values it proclaims?
    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/wor...war-ii-victims-nazi-graffiti-article-1.956714
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    It's anyone who feels inclined to be slightly concerned about the Religion of Peace, when the Religion of Peace provides reasons to be slightly concerned.
     
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    What are you saying?
     
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    I am saying that due to constant approval of all anti-soviet and anti-russian sentiments in ex-soviet republics from the countries of European Union and from the United States of America along with liberals, conservatives and others popularity gained ulta-right parties.

    Being anti-russian became a synonim of being a patriot, and as result chauvinism flourished. If you can freely hate one nation - why not the other? Why not desecrate memorials of holocaust victims. Why not beat up some ethnic group from neighbouring country. Why not take a march with torches, throwing ziegs in the air and chanting something like "Strength! Honor! Fatherland!".


    And as result we have what we have. We have radical hard-nationalist parties in parlaments, we have torch marches. It all have been noticed, it all have have been highlighted by our media for years. For us it was concern, and for news it was a raitings-rich topic. After all, like people in USA still have deep prejudice towards communists - similar prejudice exists in RF towards fascists and nazists. So when people start breaking memorials of OUR soldiers, while hailing it and waving suspitiously swaztica-like flags - it was a sight people loved to hate.

    As I said, basically it was done for raitings. That's what media works for - views. More views - more gain. But at least they highlighter a real problem. Problem that today escalates in chauvinism, in strong neo-nazy groups. In case of Ukraine - ARMED groups.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_volunteer_battalions_(since_2014)

    Somewhat around 40.000 of armed irregulars. Among them - neo-nazy.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_Sector#Ukrainian_Volunteer_Corps
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Battalion#Neo-Nazi_ideology_and_symbols



    Let me repeat. In Europe in 2017 exist armed fighting in active armed conflict neo-nazy re-gi-ments. Organized. Backed by a political party that has a legal official representative in the parlament.



    I am saying there is a problem and that russians told about that problem for years, but "russian media is controlled by state so nothing it says is true", so GOOD MORNING, I am saying a big, fat "TOLD YOU". That's basically only thing left I can do, for everything else it is too late at that point. These glorified butchers are killing people already.
     
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    Oh, by the way in case anybody there may have gained impression that only "vile russians" get assaulted by far-right:


    Liberty. Democracy. "got rid of communists". Right. Very, very right. Ultra-right, even.


    Now, quickly make more threads about evil Russia and how poor east europeans need more financial support from EU, how Ukraine must be supplied with weaponry and vechicles from USA, and what new russian enterprises must be sanctioned. There is still remains one bank that my family has deposits in that is not sanctioned directly yet.
     
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    Although I don't condone the hatred against non warring factions like Jews, I agree with not allowing those who follow Islam into the country because it is a demonic cult that will only lead to trouble and death of their citizens if they agree to do so. So laugh or make remarks all you like but I'll bet they'll never be crying over the loss of loved ones due to terrorism.
     
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    What a bunch of ingrates. The Kremlin released documents and photos showing the gratitude the Polish people had towards the Soviet Union when they were freed from the Nazis, and now they're desecrating the graves and destroying the monuments of those that saved them. Short memory there!

    As the saying goes, he does not know history, is bound to repeat it. Pity the Poles.
     
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    I don't accept these gay marches... they are so obscene, and I praise Russia for not accepting them, and going along with the will of the Russian people and the sensibilities of much of its population. It is funny though watching the gays try to march through Nazi lands, and the way the media covers it up.
     
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    Well, there's difference between disliking thing and throwing a nail bomb at unarmed people.
     
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    Yeah I'd take the Nazi's over Bolsheviks any day of the week.
     
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    They are trying to keep Islamic fascism out, and get called fascists for doing so. So if you think your own traditional, historical culture is valuable, and you do not want it changed, you do not want unnecessary problems and conflict with islam, you are of course called a fascist. Seems to be some nefarious but clever ruses going on here. Protecting ones way of life is now fascism. I think this should be a hanging offense, spinning this into fascism.
     
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    Cool, cool. So you like open butchers over the corrupted bureaucrats. Splendid. Really tells about what kind of character you are.

    Especially soncidering you're taking nazis over the democrats. Bolsheviks are not existent for decades already.
     
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    They've been here for decades. It started when we brought the 6,700 professors, scientist, etc from the Nazi's. Heidegger, Braun, Wolff, etc. Left with one goal, destroy it from the inside. It worked. Those people adorn the walls of MOST of our academic selection in this country, (I know, I took multiple campus visits and chuckled about it everywhere I went) strangely enough, they jacked Marx's teachings and started teaching it all over the US in the mid 50's, which was followed by the, "Hippy revolution" the same collegiate aged kids that were taught by those very people.

    The Russians, they were the worst butchers of WWII, Forcing their own soldiers to lock arms and clear minefields with their feet. Executing surrendering soldiers was commonplace. The "Rape Machine" of WWII is what it's called by even Red Army vets.

    I'll take Nazi's over Bolsheviks. (Liberals are modern day Bolsheviks) its and identical ideology.
     
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    Are they calling themselves 'Fascists' or are you using the term in order to demean their policies?
     
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    The polish elect their president by popular vote. So in that aspect, Poles are more democratic than the US ... So if fascism is the will of a democratic majority, is it fascism?
     
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