Is America Headed for a New Kind of Civil War?

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  1. WAN

    WAN Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Today the State Department has officially stopped all Russian people from travelling to the US. Ominous isn't it? Maybe we should start taking our heads out of the sand, and start looking around to see what's being done in our name... as well as what the future holds.

    The reason for this is that Russia kicked out diplomats (CIA Agents), so as to equalize Washington's diplomatic staff to the same amount of personnel as the Russians have in the US. This was done in response by Russia to the theft of Russian property in the US by Obama, which Trump refused to return without getting some favors in return. Extortion anyone? Seems nothing is beneath us now?

    Here are a few excerpts from an excellent article in the Duran:

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    Above the half-witted mainstream media’s shrill noise about Charlottesville’s George Soros funded, statue-destroying, history-erasing, tattooed LGBT left-wing anarchists, we can hear something far more frightening. We hear the gargantuan growling curses of cannibal giants—the morally lobotomized military industrial complex—hiding in the darkness, scraping swords against stones and cracking knuckles, as they prepare to clash; and in the process of their reckless grappling, crush civilization and crumble landscapes. The question is what will trigger their fight?


    The U.S. justification for this action, so we’re told, is because the Russian government had previously ordered U.S. State Department staff (CIA agents) to leave Russia in order to create a more equal number of Russians and Americans working in each others’ embassies. Of course, what is conveniently ignored is that in December 2016 President Obama, in violation of international law, seized the Russian Government’s summer house and property in the Washington DC metro area, and Trump has continued the crime by refusing to return the Russian property without getting some kind of “benefit” in return. Extortion anyone?

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    The supreme law of the land is the Constitution, and it is clear: no federal or state law, statute, code, or policy can exist that violates or undermines any part of the Constitution. Anything that does, is unlawful and has no authority over citizens. The reason for America’s obscenely immoral Congress is because they have abandoned and hated the idea of truth animating all government laws and actions.

    Let us always remember that truth is the union between a people and their government. Truth is the life force behind all law, and the U.S. Constitution; it is the substance of contracts; it is the light guiding man’s righteous claim and defense of his inalienable rights; it is the spirit of a responsible and benevolent self-government.


    Truth is the soul of justice, the shape of love, and the sound of peace. But sadly the corruption of man, his lusts, and selfish pride reject this principle in exchange for the shifting sands of pleasure and popular opinion.

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    By ignoring truth when making law, Congress destroys both. Without truth, there is no semblance of government authority, there is only the tyranny of DEEP STATE bureaucrats who channel fear to continue their power.
     
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  2. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    There is something wrong with you.
     
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    I think the Russian collusion "investigation" is running out of gas and the 'resistance' just needs something new; "racism"!
     
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    Not always

    Another recent automobile homicide occured in ultra liberal Austin Texas a few years ago at the South by Southwest music festival when a young woman ran over a crowd out of anger that had nothing to do with politics
     
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    Well, with the way MSM has been behaving I don't blame you, and indeed respect your cynicism.

    He killed a lot of people in order to maintain the rule of law. SO did most of the monarchy in Europe. Winston Churchill was the first to gas the Kurdish civilians.

    Saddam promoted female emancipation in Iraq, and prior to GW1 did much to improve the infrastructure and living standard of the poor.

    I still hold he was a bad guy, but sometimes that's what you need.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    He was PAID to attack Iran. The US Commerce Department guaranteed a vast number of "loans" to him, and our guys hand delivered chemical weapons to him.

    Please, the hypocrisy reeks!
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Such honest posts like yours are rare indeed, thank you.

    It seems some cultures need a dictator, for whatever reason, and yes, human leaders often kill people. By way of drone and extralegal assassinations, my government kills people weekly at least.

    Saddam kept order. We destroyed that order under fraud. Thank you again for the honesty.
     
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    I've heard that said of Assad, Ghaddafy and Milosevick, never of the Shah, Trujillo or Pinochet. Seems tyrants are "what you need", but only if they oppose the US.
     
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    Why do you believe racists do not have the same right to free speech as you do?
     
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    I sure hope not

    but Trump has shown how much power the President has and how little can be done about it, the constant lying, the constant attacks on our free speech , Congress can't do anything to stop the conflicts of interests or anything really, the only thing the people can do is wait 4 years to vote again

    and remember, that power will exist with dems and repubs going forward - ethics no longer need apply after Trump
     
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    True enough in the public sphere. You'll certainly hear it in foreign policy circles of friends and enemies alike. It was the reason we supported Saddam prior to GW1, even whilst he was gassing the Kurds. It was the reason Pinochet was tolerated.
     
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    It is in this case.
     
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    notme Well-Known Member

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    When I say he was willing, and you say he was paid....
    than this is just nitpicking insanity.
     
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    Maybe

    But to label it terrorism gives this guy way too much credit

    I wonder if you can even pin a hate crime on him
     
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    You mentioned the criteria, and they just apply in this instance.
    Seems you GOP got a hard time admitting you got terrorists in the alt-right department.
     
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    No

    You have to prove he was politically motivated and that hasn't happened yet

    But if he is an alt-right wacko I as a republican have no connection to him at all
     
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    He was present at a nazi rally, and deliberately ran his speeding car into the political opponents of it.
    There you go.
     
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    Ha!

    Dont quit your day job
     
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    There is a picture of him, holding a shield with a fascist symbol at Charlottesville nazi rally.
    A teacher of him said he was deeply into Hitler and white supremacy.

    And when he was at a nazi rally, he deliberately ran his car through his political opponents.


    How retarded can you be to dispute his political alliance.
     
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    That is circumstantial evidence

    Why can't liberals just say murder is wrong and let it go at that?
     
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    Uh no..
    A person who hold up fascist symbols at a nazi rally where he kills his political opponent is not circumstantial evidence.
    Whats the problem with you GOP to label this as alt-right supporter of making a terrorist attack?
     
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    It is a very superficial analysis of a chronic deception.
     
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    The people need a more common goal, it might not be the conservative goal, but it can't be the goal of every different group in the Democrat's tent.
     
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    I looked under the Democrat's tent.

    It's just not a circus with way to many clowns but it's a carnival represented by every minority and radical fringe group that you would expect to find in a snake infested swamp.
     
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    Democrats are an amalgam of circus side shows?
    Nice.
     
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