NAACP calls for boycott if Kaepernick remains unsigned

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  1. Andrew Jackson

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    Kaepernick is a major tool.

    He choked in the Super Bowl.

    A loser.
     
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    I was stunned by that as well.
     
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    Trevor Siemian is on a later round rookie contract. Those are much below what free agents make. Anyone that follows football knows this.
     
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    He's clearly the better deal. I wouldn't draft Kaepernut to wash cars in the parking lot. He's an attention whore who chokes in the clutch.

    He doesn't like America and once he made that clear, America returned his disdain.
     
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    At least he made it to one. I'm still waiting on Romo or Rivers to get to one. Prescott will win one before those two.
     
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    Just the opposite.

    Alot of them have.

    He is just joining the club. Flat Ryan has got the biggest choke in SB history and everybody swears he is an elite QB.
     
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    The NFL is suffering low ratings and I believe in part from this type of anti-American/liberal political garbage infecting every area of life. So far I haven't watched one game this year, usually I watch the preseason straight through but think I'm going to sit this year out. Most people I know want to watch sports as an escape from every day BS, especially politics but now the escape is being hijacked by liberalism. Liberals ruin anything and everything they touch.
     
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    Did any of them bring politics into sports? If Kaepernick wants to protest, let him join protests on his own time. If he had done that, he would still have a job. People are not going to go to games or watch on TV and teams will lose money. College football is much better anyway. Go Clemson!
     
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    Romo is now gone.
    Rivers has no chance, maybe Dak gets there.

    Who knows?

    The whole Kaepernick thing is turning into a big No1Curr.
     
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    Yep that is what folks said about Muhammad Ali and we see where his place in history is.

    Tommie Smith and John Carlos showed courage and fortitude in 68 during the Olympics.

    Jim Brown has always stood up, Bill Russell stood up.

    It Isn't about going along to get along.
     
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    Did any of those athletes have the guts to call a Democrat presidential candidate a racist?

    “I mean, you have Hillary [Clinton] who’s called black teens or black kids super-predators. You have Donald Trump who’s openly racist. I mean, we have a presidential candidate who’s deleted emails and done things illegally and is a presidential candidate. That doesn’t make sense to me, because if that was any other person, you’d be in prison. So what is this country really standing for?” Washington Post, Colin Kaepernick criticizes Clinton and Trump, says he will keep sitting during anthem, By Jeremy Gottlieb, 8/28/16
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-he-will-keep-sitting-during-national-anthem/
     
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    To put a super fine point on this. This is spot on. Our sports aren't supposed to be proxy wars for our politicians. We have example after example of where folks have inserted stupid personal political demonstrations to the detriment of the sport. Sometimes, it's just about having fun. But how can it be fun when all of the ancillary BS gets associated to it? We can't get past the BS these days. We can't watch the opening of a game in fear that some rudeness, or some inflammatory protest inside of the first 15 minutes of the game. Why watch the rest of it?

    I watch college football. Why? Because I can at least watch with the expectation that anyone can win on any given game, and that the folks playing aren't so career conscious that they fail to play with heart because they intend to protect themselves for some chance at post season play.

    I grew up devoted to professional football. Frankly, today, it's not even worth the effort to follow.
     
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    That's not saying much Rex Groseman made it to a super bowl also.


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    It is not about politics. It is about his specific situation. He is a good QB for the spread offense. No team runs the spread and he commands a big salary.

    A back-up QB should be like oatmeal. Serviceable and cheap. He is neither.

    When a starting QB goes down, I expect he will be playing.
     
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    He made his own bed. Look where Roseanne's career went when she butchered the anthem as a joke. Some things you need to respect or ****.
     
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    Dear Baby Jesus........I pray that I will soon be able to make it through an entire day without reading about a mediocre former NFL QB why destroyed his own career through terrible play and asinine political stances......thank you Lord......
     
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    I heard a guy who attended that really in Charlottesville two weeks ago lost his job when his employer found out about it. Is anyone going to complain that someone should hire him under the threat of being boycotted? I know, I know, that's different. No it's not, a belief is a belief and an action taken is an action taken.
     
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    Why Colin Kaepernick is wrong: It’s not a black-and-white issue
    By Phil Mushnick

    September 1, 2016


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    Dear Colin Kaepernick,

    For what it’s worth, I agree with you. I’m also convinced blacks are America’s most oppressed race. And I’m pleased you’re the latest pro athlete to exploit his or her status to take a stand, yours by sitting during the national anthem.

    But we disagree on who the oppressors are. You believe it’s white America, the America that helped do the once-imponderable: elect a black president, and not once, but twice.

    I believe that the greatest oppressors of black Americans are black Americans. And they’re encouraged to continue by a say-what-you-want-to-hear leadership and messengers, from the president to a frightened media, politicians of every office, and activists, both black and white, empowered by their steady unwillingness to tell clear, present and sustaining truths in service of genuine for-the-better change.

    Consider that when a murder or murders of black men, women and children occur in a black neighborhood, its residents are conditioned to be uncooperative with cops and detectives — “Snitches get stitches” — in pursuit of the murderer or murderers lest they and their families suffer retaliatory harm, including murder.

    Now that, Colin, that’s oppression. It’s a gangs-as-Gestapo mentality and reality that exists — and rules — within black communities throughout this country.

    Oppression? Colin, you’re one lucky young man to have escaped another epidemic of black-on-black oppression. You were adopted by a man and a woman and raised in a presumably loving, nurturing household. You were raised by two on-the-job parents.

    You beat another common, almost standard reality: black self-oppression.

    You can’t abide by a national anthem that makes you think about the oppression of minorities? Try thinking about the 380,000 Northern soldiers who died in the Civil War primarily fighting to end the enslavement of black men, women and children more than 150 years ago.

    Why, Colin, is American black culture still synonymous — from the abuse of women, to violent crime, to absentee parents, to gangs substituting for families, to “Black Power” politicians who steal from the black poor and pocket it (and often are then re-elected) — with sustaining self-oppression?

    Colin, you cited the Black Lives Matter movement as one you support. But logical people of all races wonder why such a noble-titled movement assiduously avoids addressing, let alone protesting, the avalanche of daily and nightly murders of blacks by blacks in virtually every city in this country.

    How is it, Colin, that it doesn’t matter to Black Lives Matter that the blood of black men, women and children daily fills the streets of Newark, Chicago, Detroit, Compton, East St. Louis, Baltimore, Birmingham and Miami? Why is Black Lives Matter’s outrage, copied from the plan of Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and, so sadly, President Obama, so hideously selective?

    Obama says he has suffered the racism of whites locking their cars when he came into view. But don’t most people lock their cars, regardless? Does Obama think cars parked in black neighborhoods sit unlocked?

    Colin, I’m a liberal-in-exile, a disenfranchised Democrat who now often chooses practicality over ideology. Which flight would the ACLU lawyer who sues to prevent profiling choose for his or her family to board? The one that promises no profiling for terrorists or the one that guarantees it?

    During the Trayvon Martin killing calamity in Florida, NBA players wore hoodies to symbolize the stereotyping that inspired Martin’s assailant, George Zimmerman.

    Yet in the months before and after that NBA protest, crimes commonly were committed — and still are — by those who tried to obscure their identities beneath hoodies.

    As those NBA protests occurred, an episode of “Bait Car,” which tracks cops as they pursue car thieves, appeared. This particular segment followed Officer Price of the Atlanta PD, who rode up at a red light alongside two young black men.

    “I see two males riding with hoodies on their head, and it’s nice and warm,” said Price. “I’m suspicious.”

    When he tried to pull the car over, a chase was on.

    “I called it,” said Price, as he hit the gas. The perps, ages 16 and 17, lost control of the stolen car, slamming into a house.

    For what it’s worth, Colin, Officer Price is black. And, for what it’s worth, Colin, black police officers are no more eager to go home dead than are white ones.

    For what it’s worth, Colin, we agree: The oppression of black Americans remains staggering. But those slave ships haven’t arrived here in over 150 years. The oppression of American blacks is primarily perpetrated by American blacks.

    And I further agree, Colin, the oppression of American blacks must stop.


    The real tragedy here is that Blacks continue to have "slavemasters." They are Democrats who have brainwashed them into thinking that they actually care. Democrats only care about power and themselves, and they need Blacks to vote them into power. Democrats talk a good game, but nothing really happens to help Blacks except keeping them on the hook by giving them welfare instead of giving them their dignity. Democrats are the party of the KKK and they really haven't changed all that much since the KKK came into existence. Blacks must realize that they are being used and begin to finally think for themselves.
     
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    Blacks ruin everything they are involved with.......whether it be the NFL, South Africa, Detroit, Haiti, South LA, universities.....any large gathering with a majority of blacks.....you name it
     
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    Jim Brown on Kaepernick

    Jim Brown said on Thursday, "I'm an American. I don't desecrate my flag and my national anthem. I'm not gonna do anything against the flag and national anthem. I'm going to work within those situations. But this is my country, and I'll work out the problems, but I'll do it in an intelligent manner."

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    ESQUIRE: You've said you support Colin Kaepernick's protest, but you would not do the same because he's disrespecting the flag and the anthem. Is there a better way for he and others who are with him to make their voices heard?

    BROWN: I'm not a generalist or a philosopher, so I don't sit around and wait for other people to show me a direction. I work on the direction I believe in. The youngsters you're talking about — they come from a different time, and have a different understanding of the social situation in this country. For me to talk off of Colin would be kind of crazy, because I've worked my whole life for what I believe in: economic development, freedom, equality, and justice for all human beings.We have an organization called "Amer-I-Can" — "Produce, Achieve, and Prosper." We've helped over 400 African-American-run companies over the last 25 years. So the effort that I make is not based upon sitting around and waiting for the youngsters to catch on. Obviously the media plays a big part in what they present to the general public, so Colin is on Time magazine and it's a talking issue. But when you deal with Amer-I-Can, it's not a talking issue, it's an action issue. We helped build a 15-year truce in Watts between the Crips and the Bloods. What I'm saying is that things didn't just start today because some modern-day athletes decided to take a knee. The best I can say is that it's just to call attention to a situation. But the situation, discrimination, has always been a part of our lives. If you're African-American in this country, then you know what second-class citizenship is, and what segregated cultures are. No one can call attention any stronger than Martin Luther King, Jesse Jackson, Nelson Mandela. We should not disrespect the individuals who went before us and paved the way for us to live a better life.Colin has the right — as anyone does in America — to express his opinion, to vote, to do all of the things that a citizen is allowed to do. And I am for that. But when it comes to the national anthem and our flag, no, I am not going to disrespect them. I am an American citizen, I pay my taxes, I want my rights. But in my family, we have disagreements, but we don't disrespect the family. We have armed forces — men that fight for this country, men that die for this country — and so it's sort of simplistic and disrespectful to feel that, when the national anthem is being sung, you're going to take a knee or whatever. I don't like it that way. I will never like it that way. But it has nothing to do with any individual that does it, because they have the right to do it.

    ESQUIRE: In an interview with Alex Haley back in 1968, you talked a lot about economic empowerment in communities of color, and how the Civil Rights movement hadn't shifted to that goal quickly enough. Do you think progress has been made in that area since?

    BROWN: The Civil Rights movement was an emotional movement — it was guided by emotion. As African-Americans, we came over here as slaves — most of us — and we were not allowed to get educated. Many of us did educate ourselves in secret. But we struggle with identification, because it created a lot of misunderstanding about race. If I'm going to be an American, if I'm going to pay my taxes, I want my rights. If I look at what capitalism is all about, and I look at what freedom it brings, then I am more interested in developing a community of black people that are going to live well from the standpoint of taking care of their families, taking care of their children, getting the best education they can, working hard to win freedom, equality, and justice.

    Throughout my life, race relations have been African Americans demanding basic rights, Caucasian Americans eventually granting them, and the African Americans going back to negotiate more rights and Caucasian Americans puzzling over this because they thought we achieved equality the last time.

    Not every request/demand (noun depends on who you are coming from) deserves acceptance. While I understand the anguish of having so many black men behind bars, the fact is the majority are there for crimes against black people.

    Not every cry of racism is true, but it still exists.

    Let us look at the facts. Slavery ended 150 years ago but its effects -- the emotional impact of being treated as subhuman for generations -- are felt today.

    The older I get, the less optimistic I am about race relations.

    To white people, I say better is not the same as best. To black people, I say it's better.

    To Jim Brown, I say thank you.

    A new generation grapples with this problem we inherited. I wish them all the luck in the world. They will need it.

    http://donsurber.blogspot.com/2017/08/jim-brown-on-kaepernick.html#more
     
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    The malcontents on the Cleveland Browns are not worthy to hold the jock strap of Jim Brown.

    Later that week, in an interview, Jim Brown said that players should keep their profession and their activism separate. Football players are paid well, and they should respect their country when they are on-camera or in a game, representing their employer, Brown said:


    “If you’re a football player, play football. If you’re gonna be a real activist, use your money, use your notoriety.”
     
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