What does Bannon's departure really mean for Trump supporters?

With Bannon gone so goes "America First" nationalism. Trump is gradually becoming a globalist much like his globalist and Democratic advisors. With that thought in mind, let's turn to North Korea.

Kim fired a missile that flew over Japan and landed in the sea several hundred miles from Hokkaido. Trump responded by tweeting, "The U.S. has been talking to North Korea, and paying them extortion money, for 25 years. Talking is not the answer!"

That is all Trump has done is talk. This has been going on since early April, and all we hear from Trump and his advisors is meaningless rhetoric. Trump has talked about sending a mighty armada to the waters off the Korean Peninsula. He has talked about "fire and fury" if Kim threatened the U.S. Kim then threatened the U.S. Trump talked some more. Now we have a provocative missile test followed by still another direct threat to Guam from Kim. Trump's reaction, he talks some more.

This time he is telling us "talking is not the answer." It would be humorous if it weren't so damn stupid.

More talk, Trump says he is a tough guy. He says he will not put up with the pacific methods of previous administrations. He says he is man of action. Talk, talk, talk.

Well, act and quit talking. We have reliable systems that can shoot down short range and intermediate range missiles. We can even shoot down an ICBM.

It is time. The next time Kim fires off a missile, no more talk. Just shoot it down. No one gets hurt. The remains of the missile will fall harmlessly into the sea. But it will send a powerful signal to North Korean generals who will decide the fate of North Korea, not Kim.

Trump will be hailed for taking action, something no other President has done. Gosh, even I will sing his praises, and Trump needs all the help he can get.

 

Honestly I think his statements were level headed on the matter though clearly putting blame on all that were violent is now the same as embracing a Nazi. Also many came to event from out of state so I doubt you can claim coming in in black hoods from out of state is defending your own town and that is what the cops were for if they did anything illegal.

You also failed to address most of my points and instead go head long into a personal attack that isn't that well hidden. Hillary would never have united the US so it's not like people voting for her could claim the higher moral ground on that issue. The only ones that can claim a moral high ground are those that voted 3rd party and if I could do it over that's what I would have done but still Hillary would have been worse because the media would not have even tried to keep her in check. It takes arm twisting to just get the big corporate media to confess the truth and honestly I am sick of it. Those scum bags are no better than the big banks and big oil, yet liberals trust them because they throw the "left wing" some more meat than the "right wing".

I find Bush far more detestable than Trump whom I also dislike and as for Obama he stabbed the middle class in the back in 100 different ways during his 8 years. Give me a reason to not be pessimistic, oh that's right because I placed a vote you didn't like I am a loser and should be pessimistic about my future as a "loser". My mistake for thinking you could logically debate my points at all. You also have my greatest sympathies for failing to address the points I made because the truth burns so deep that your only choice was to label me a loser.

As for the KKK Hillary likes them so much she kissed one of their leaders: http://www.snopes.com/clinton-byrd-photo-klan/

This isn't a but Hillary point, this is if you blame me for voting for Trump and many claim that voting for 3rd party was a vote for Trump how is Hillary's track record on groups like the KKK any better. She had been far more racist in her life time than Trump has ever been.

Obama never blamed Islam for Islamic terror even though he was given every chance in the book to do so, it wasn't like a one time event. He repeatly refused to condemn Islamic terror ever.

Trump takes until the next weekday to condemn Nazi's and people screamed their heads off that he wasn't fast enough. I would have done it sooner if I was president but it was the weekend and unless it was very important I would have waited until Monday to make a official statement.

Honestly the comments you make try to sound educated but unfortunately I think based on the statement made by you emotions seems to have interfered with constructing a proper rebuttal. This seems to be a pattern that leads to name calling once someone pokes a hole into your argument. This isn't personal but just my own view on the argument you have presented. As for the way I see the world it's likely darker than you think it is, but I learned in my childhood how to deal with very bleak outlooks on life mostly thanks to liberal teachers.

 

Of course, you think Trump's statements were level headed. Trump clumsily supported white supremacists by spreading the blame to Antifa. You are absolutely convinced that the Antifa were a major part of the counter protesters. That is simply untrue. It is a lie promulgated by Trump and supported by you. How do I know that? The leadership of Trump's party condemned his remarks. All five chiefs of staffs -- who never get involved in politics -- condemned Trump. Influential conservative pundits like Krauthammer, Hume, and Rove condemned Trump. I am in good company, and you are not. Your company is the "jerk," Trump.

On the other hand, David Duke joins you in complimenting Trump on his remarks.

You are supporting two white supremacists, Trump and Duke. Obviously, you are sympathetic to white supremacy.

Because I am not going to get involved in a discussion about Clinton, Bush, Obama or anyone else. This is about Trump. You would like nothing more than to change the subject. Sorry about that.

The comments I made were factual and well researched. Other than supporting Trump's lie about Antifa, you are not challenging the views expressed. Instead of properly defending Trump, you whine about what I wrote.

Your pessimistic view that, yes, Trump is incompetent, but so have been other Presidents, as if this somehow excuses Trump for being a "jerk," your word. Your premise is false, if not totally ridiculous, because your supporting viewpoint is false.

By thinking that all Presidents for the past 25 years are incompetent you sound like the kind of loser who would vote for Trump.

Well, guess what.

 

Again with the insults and frankly greatly worthless garbage of a rebuttal running away from the points I made. As for defending Trump I don't care to do so because he is a jerk but somehow this isn't enough for you. A KKK grand dragon also endorsed Hillary and frankly I could care less about what a man that wares bed sheets says about anything. Your support for political violence by the alt left is what I worry about most because once people support any kind of political violence our Republic will die. What reasonably needs to happen is for Antifa and Neo Nazi's to be labeled as Terrorist groups due to their history's of violence in the name of politics. As to what "Influential" conservative pundits have to say, I could care less and don't know who those people are that you listed. Great people agree with you on Trumps statement not being perfect, please let me know when it's like Obama that never put the blame on what is behind an act of terror and then I will gladly bash Trump all day about it.

Oh Trump is lying about Antifa being Violent?

1)https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/09/the-rise-of-the-violent-left/534192/

2) https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...nstrators-in-berkeley/?utm_term=.1dbe914c86ff

3)http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-far-left-violence-20170829-story.html

More like perhaps you aren't up to speed on their true nature or more likely turning a bind eye to this issue because it damages your case against Trump.

You won't get involved in a discussion at all about Bush or Obama but then claim that what I have said is false based on what, your own alternate facts or are you going to actually make a logical case for me being wrong other than emotional fud passed by you as factual.

The fact you are so unwilling to debate my points and running away from them over and over again leads me to think you sound like the type that simply lacks the organic matter between your ears in order to come up with a rebuttal to them.

Also I asked for a reason to not be "pessimistic" and again you can't come up with a reason. Why because once I start constructing a well sourced statement for it you will dismiss it and drive this point of me being a "loser" home to make your self feel better. Based on the comments made it seems no better than the status quo in government that does not care to take input from the people, because in such an elitist mind they must be right and anyone that manages to destroy their picture of the world in their own minds must be labeled as a loser or telling false hoods in order to keep living with those rose colored glasses on.

One last thing, calling me sympathetic to white supremacy is like calling every Hillary voter sympathetic to white supremacy because she kissed a KKK leader. Liberals are the ones really the most sympathetic to white supremacy because they actually believe whites are born with privileges just due to a skin color. My own belief is all races are and should be treated %100 equal no matter what. I don't like or condone white supremacy in the slightest and have made comments that reflect such in other post on this forum. So I don't know where you got that idea from but my guess is that this was one more baseless insult designed invoke a response. I guess it worked because I can't ignore such a outrageous charge against me.

 

"As for defending Trump I don't care to do so because he is a jerk."

Let's let it go at that. There is no need to say any more. We are in agreement.