What does Bannon's departure really mean for Trump supporters?

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  1. Sandy Shanks

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    It means the reasons Trump supporters voted for Trump in the first place are now gone.

    “Bannon is the intellectual heart and soul of the Trump movement,” said Mark Corallo, a prominent GOP operative who served briefly as the spokesperson for Trump’s private legal team. “He was the think tank. He's the idea generator. … He was the guy who was the most thoughtful about how to enact the agenda, how to build a coalition.”

    Trump supporters by and large are populist nationalists. Steve Bannon was the leading spokesman for populist nationalism in the White House, and Breitbart immediately gained from Trump's loss. Breitbart's editor-in-chief Alex Marlow declared, “The populist-nationalist movement got a lot stronger today. Breitbart gained an executive chairman with his finger on the pulse of the Trump agenda.”

    If Trump supporters don't take my word for it, perhaps they will believe the holder of the "intellectual heart and soul" of their movement. In an interview with The Weekly Standard Bannon stated, “The Trump presidency that we fought for, and won, is over,” he said. “We still have a huge movement, and we will make something of this Trump presidency. But that presidency is over. It’ll be something else. And there’ll be all kinds of fights, and there’ll be good days and bad days, but that presidency is over.”

    There is a powerful reason why Trump supporters should now be questioning their loyalty to the Trump Presidency. That Presidency is now dominated by Democrats and globalists, the very people Trump supporters fought so hard against.

    The fact of the matter is, prior to becoming a Republican candidate, Trump was a New York Democrat. Trump donated $175,860 more to Democrats than Republicans from 1989 to 2010. He donated to the Clinton Foundation as well as prominent Democrats, including Hillary Clinton (N.Y.), Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (Nev.), John Kerry (Mass.), and Rahm Emanuel (Ill.), President Obama's White House chief of staff, among others.

    In 2011, Trump changed his mind and decided to be a Republican. While that was far from the last time he changed his mind, was it really true that he was a Republican at heart?

    That brings us up to today. With the dismissal of the alt-right spokesman from the White House, Bannon, Trump's inner circle has drastically changed. Republicans, populists, and nationalists are all gone. Trump's closest advisers are now Democrats and globalists!

    They would include Jared Kushner, his wife and Trump's Jewish daughter, Ivanka, Gary Cohn, Trump's economic adviser, and Steve Mnuchin, Trump's secretary of the treasury.

    Another group of advisors extremely close to Trump are apolitical. They are generals. They are chief of staff John Kelly, SecDef James Mattis, and Trump's NSA H.R. McMasters.

    Summing up, Trump supporters voted for a wannabe Republican, a populist nationalist, and an "America First" kind of guy. What they have now is a President who returned to his Democratic roots and he is surrounded by globalist Democrats that include his daughter and son-in-law.
     
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    It means that the General will do what Generals do after strategists strategize---run operations. Bannon was never going to be an ops guy.
     
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    !st he has repeatedly gone against the counsel of his son and daughter. 2nd Trump is not now nor has been the leader he was simply the only choice desperate conservatives had.
     
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    You missed the point by a country mile. Wow! Wheee!
     
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    People mainly voted for President Trump because he was not Hillary Clinton. Not out of some kind of odd "populist nationalism"
     
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    I voted for Trump because of Trump and what he said in his messages. I could care less about Steve Bannon. He had no influence on my vote.

    Trump won because he was not Hillary and he promised more jobs. Enough said.
     
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    I never mentioned Trump's son, but you are correct. Trump has been or has tried to be a populist nationalist in the spirit of "America First." This has all occurred under tutelage of Bannon who is a self-admitted spokesman for the art-right.

    That has now changed. Bannon is gone. The people closest to Trump are now Democrats and they are family. The next tier of advisors are apolitical.

    That is what the whole article is about. Everything about Trump that caused his base to vote for him is now gone.

    You can't compare the future to what has happened in the past. The players of the past are no longer in the White House.
     
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    Then why did Trump win the republican primary against not populist globalist republicans?
     
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    You are wrong, but then you wouldn't know. You were never a Trump supporter. How could you know what motivated a Trump supporter? I know because I have been battling them for the past year on this forum.

    Don't be confused by the label. In other words, his supporters were populists and nationalists, but very few would call themselves that.

    They wanted the country to turn inward, to take care of the home folks, eliminate illegal immigration, create jobs and restore American manufacturing, lower taxes, and stop wasting tax dollars. They also wanted to "drain the swamp" and destroy the establishment. They strongly supported the "America First" mantra and they strongly opposed foreign adventures, unless it meant eliminating ISIS. All countries should pay their fair share in defending themselves and not rely solely on the U.S. All trade agreements should favor the U.S., and we should wall off our southern border.

    Well, guess what, those things were all popular among Trump supporters and they are nationalistic in nature.

    Trump supporters are populist nationalists ... but most didn't know it.

    But today the White House is dominated by globalist Democrats. Hillary Clinton was a globalist Democrat.

    Do you see my point?
     
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    Why Sandy? What are you so afraid of?
     
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    I'm not afraid of a thing. The fact is, I am having the time of my life. Trump is so much fun.
     
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    Right. What Trump said was what Bannon told him to say. Trump went from unscripted remarks to highly scripted remarks. All of that was at Bannon's direction.

    You still don't get it. What Trump has said in the past no longer matters. Now he will be guided by globalist Democrats, two of them family.

    Now do you get it?
     
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    No I don't get it. I honestly don't think Trump listened to half of what he said. Regardless everyone voted for Trump for Trump and Pence and not Steve. Be serious here.
     
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    Yeah because you have nothing better to do with your life. Are you old and lonely? I have a wife and kids and I can't afford to spend my life 24/7 bashing Trump all day. I have better things to do unlike you. You make your life sound so amazing with Trump being the highlight of your day.
     
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    How many times have we heard some garbage like this? Trump haters are so anxious for any scrap they can see as good news they will blow anything out of proportion.

    What does Bannon leaving mean? Nothing to Trump supporters. To Trump haters it is just another chance to try and ease the butthurt.
     
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    No I don't see your point.

    I know what motivates many Trump supporters because I know many Trump supporters. Many personally for that matter.
     
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    You mean that entire OP is an article? Where are your quotation marks and link?

    Is that what all your lengthier posts have been--unacknowledged quotations?
     
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    Trump did not "win" the Republican nomination so much as it was given to him by a GOP that refused to unite behind a single candidate as an alternative.

    By the time the horrendously large field was winnowed down, about the only opposition to Donald Trump was Ted Cruz who was also very disliked by the GOP establishment.

    If there had been at the start of the nominating process Donald Trump and only four or five other Republicans, in all likelihood one of those other candidates would've been nominated.
     
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    Since you believe that now to be the case, are you now a Trump supporter?
     
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    Well it looks like they ****ed up but good
     
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    It shouldn't mean anything. It seems like a smoke screen. It also shows he's incompetent if he depends on Bannon. He's the President. He should know what he is doing.
     
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    Hey, if those Democrats and globalists don't do anything other than give us another Supreme Court Justice like Neil Gorsuch to replace RBG, I'll be quite happy. :p
     
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    "You still don't get it. What Trump has said in the past no longer matters. Now he will be guided by globalist Democrats, two of them family."

    Tell me, what part of that statement don't you understand? You simply ignore it, then repeat yourself.

    From here on in, what Trump and Pence said is immaterial. Sebastain Gorka and Steve Miller will be the next to go. They are already on the outside looking in.

    You and other Trump boosters are also ignoring these facts. Trump was originally a New York Democrat, changing his mind in 2011. Or did he? He has been at war with his Republican colleagues on the Hill for weeks, even tearing into the Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell.

    Gone are Republicans in his inner circle. Gone is the populist nationalist Steve Bannon who had a tremendous influence on what Trump said and did. Bannon was the author of the Muslim travel ban. Bannon's proteges, Miller and Gorka, will soon be gone.

    What is left in Trump's inner circle are globalist Democrats. The antithesis of what you voted for. Hillary Clinton is a globalist Democrat!

    Now do you get it?
     
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    From conservative-leaning, Trump friendly Fox News, "President Trump's controversial chief strategist Steve Bannon is leaving the White House ..."

    Losing his chief strategist doesn't mean a whole lot to you, but it means a hell of a lot to Trump. That is my point.

    One of them anyway.
     
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    The Nazis love Trump. He is the only thing that they can rally around to save the democrat party from themselves.
     
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