TRUMP ORDERS RELEASE OF JFK FILES

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  1. Guess Who

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    No he never would have supported a socialist like Sanders.
     
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    He (JFK) would definitely have been hated by today's powerful Zionist lobbies because of his opposition to Israel's Nuclear program. No politician has gone against Zionist lobbies & had a long & successful political career.

    "When a U.S. president demanded inspections of a nuclear facility in the Middle East (and failed)"
    http://mondoweiss.net/2015/07/president-inspections-facility/

    EXCERPT "In July 1963, President Kennedy demanded of the newly-elected Israeli Prime Minister that he allow U.S. inspections of the Israeli nuclear facility at Dimona to make sure that the plant was “devoted exclusively to peaceful purposes.” U.S. support for Israel would be “seriously jeopardized” if the U.S. could not get information on doings at the facility, Kennedy said."CONTINUED
     
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    JFK had already issued a memorandum that would begin to draw down US forces in Viet Nam and he had already enraged the CIA and Pentagon by not giving support for the Bay of Pigs invasion when it was sprung on him (as they were sure he would).

    Shortly after gaining office LBJ wiped out Kennedy's memo and began the war in earnest. https://www.pbslearningmedia.org/re...ation-of-the-vietnam-war-by-lbj/#.Wezhe3YVjIU
     
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    JFK......Bill Clinton.......and Cheeto all have something in common......they are all sexual predators and scum.
     
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    Did the first shot (that hit Kennedy's throat) came from the front as well? Meaning, did that bullet first went through Connally's wrist and then hit Kennedy's throat?
     
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    I don't know......what are your thoughts. I think it came from the back. But the kill shot came from the front in my opinion. I've shot a lot of pumpkins and other objects in my life.......not one of them ever jumped toward me......
     
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    The large exit wound in the right rear of Kennedy's skull, as seen by all the ER doctors at Dallas Parkland hospital, tells everyone that the fiction of Lee Harvey Oswald, as the lone gunner up in the Dallas Schoolbook Depository, is absolute bull sh*t!

    Anybody who has spent ten seconds looking at the evidence can tell you that.
     
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    That was my point; you think the first shot (that hit Kennedy) came from the back. Presumably from Oswald but another shooter nevertheless.
    Because I also think that the first shot came from the back. Most likely fired from an elevated position which is why it went through Connally's wrist, coming from Kennedy's throat. (Kennedy was also sitting in a somewhat elevated position.)

    This, imo, is the essence of the entire case regarding how many people shot Kennedy. (Apart form who.)

    Conspiracy theorists always try to erase Oswald as the shooter by focusing on the second fatal shot.
    But forget the second shot for a moment, even if you believe it came front he front.
    IF you can determine that the first shot did indeed came from the back, then PER DEFINITION there was more than one shooter.

    This is what conspiracy theorists always want to avoid debating;

    IF the first shot came from he the back, investigating-wise, you would have to determine where that shot came from, IF you don't believe in Oswald at the book-depository.
    Some other building then perhaps? Fired by some totally unknown and never identified shooter?

    Of course it's pretty hard to ignore the rifle found at the book-depository, unless you think that was planted there and everybody is in on the conspiracy bla bla bla

    In other words; AS SOON as you admit a shot was fired from the back, with a rifle found at the book-depository, you're quickly in Oswald territory.

    If we are EVER gonna discover who killed Kennedy; Evidence-wise, look over your shoulder.
    Don't follow the money, follow the bullet.
     
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    In my opinion Oswald was a patsy who was set up.......and he immediately recognized that to be the case and fled. If he did it he would have known he was getting the death sentence and would have proudly acknowledged his role. Instead, he said he was a patsy.......and before he could say more was taken out by a 'patriotic' strip club owner who was part of the Chicago Jewish mafia. The very same folks who lost tons of money in Havana. The very same folks who put JFK in the White House with the wee hour Cook County vote. The very same people who were betrayed by Kennedy and his brother Bobby by failing to oust Castro and coming down hard on the mafia. Just my theory........everybody has one....
     
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    Hardly, the ones most likely to hate him would be Democrats. JFK messed with their Klan chi, and now they have lowered their standards to allowing scum like the SPLC and BLM to dictate their messages of hate...
     
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    Very interesting. Thanks, I didn't know that.
     
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    JFK had nothing in common with that sexual deviate Clinton...JFK was a fine, Godly man, who kept us away from nuclear war with the Soviets...thanks to him the world is still here, and you jerrygob have a forum to post your illiterate views of history.
     
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    Corrupt governments hide the truth from the public, as has been done in the JFK assassiniation, Vietnam war, 9/11 attacks (by the USA government...but the USA government has an excuse they are totally controlled by the zionists and do their bidding no problem. JFK attacked this secrecy in his speech of July 1963...he also was phasing out the Federal Reserve system of money creation because it is interest bearing, and under total control of the zionists. He went back to printing constitutional money with no interest...these factors got him assassinated just like Presidents Lincoln, Garfield, Mckinley before him..
    See his executive order 11110 which provided for the money supply reverting back to the people from the zionists.
     
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    Yes, a horrible day in history that took from us one of the most politically courageous presidents we ever had. I think it is a great thing to see the declassification happen, but I am curious as to how some of the people involved who may still be alive will take this kind of illumination of facts. There is enough verifiable facts out there that would expose some people in a very bad light, that I am questioning how much really relevant information are in these undisclosed files.
     
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    He was also a sex addict.
     
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    Wait, you say Oswald was a patsy, recognized this and fled.
    A patsy how? Was he in the schoolbook-depository at the window, with a rifle aimed at Kennedy?
    If so, he could only have been a patsy if he never fired a shot at Kennedy. A patsy is, per definition, innocent.
    Say, Oswald saw Kennedy get killed before he could get his own shots of. Realizing he was being set up Oswald dropped the rifle and fled.

    This seems a rather unbelievable twist.

    Perhaps Oswald was never in the depository in the first place. But if he was NEVER there why would he specifically call himself a patsy?
    I don't think you use that word unless you feel framed for an act you didn't commit.
    Meaning; I don't think Oswald would have called himself a patsy, simply for being arrested inside a movie theater...

    So, if Oswald considered himself a patsy HE MUST have been at the schoolbook-depository.
    Thus we're back with Oswald placed at the depository, being made a patsy for a Presidential murder.

    And if we've come this far what are the odds Oswald did, in fact, shot and killed Kennedy?
    He's at the window and he has the rifle aimed at the motorcade. Oswald targets Kennedy...

    I'd say the odds that Oswald did indeed act as the assassin are pretty good.

    Then, after being arrested, Oswald calls himself a patsy.
    Why?

    Because he was crazy.
     
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    AS I noted earlier, JFK angered the Zionists not only by his monetary goals but by threatening to inspect Israel's nuclear program:

    "JFK told Israel: 'If you want U.S. aid, shut down your nuclear bomb factory'"
    https://www.sott.net/article/269311...nt-US-aid-shut-down-your-nuclear-bomb-factory

    EXCERPT "Finally, Kennedy had enough, and in a personal letter dated May 18, 1963, the president warned that unless American inspectors were allowed into Dimona (meaning the end of any military activities), Israel would find itself totally isolated."CONTINUED
     
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    so once again, you blame the Jews.

    Im shocked.

    do you blame the Jews for Hurricane Maria?
     
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    You keep assuming he did the shooting. I believe he was placed in a job in the book depository.....and set up as the patsy. His whole history/story makes no sense. Someone with no means or money doesn't just fly off to Russia in the '50s, defect, marry a Russian woman and then fly back with her......trip off to Mexico to a Communist Embassy.......run around New Orleans handing out leaflets for some Commie organization nobody ever heard of
     
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    Where did I "blame the Jews" for anything?

    It's a historical fact that JFK was confronting Israel over its illegal nuclear arsenal & the Israelis & American Zionists were angry with him......deal with the facts & quit whining.
     
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    there is no evidence that Israel and American Jews were in conflict with JFK.

    JFK seemed to be a big fan of Israel:

    http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=74217
     
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    Kennedy “was the first to supply anti-aircraft rockets, and this was very crucial to providing support and security for Israel against the possibility of Egyptian and Syrian aircraft attacking Israel at any future conflict,” Slonim said. “He was the first to say that the United States is committed to Israel’s security and defense, and he proved it by his actions and his conduct.”

    https://www.pri.org/stories/2013-11...dy-president-who-committed-us-israels-defense
     
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    Kennedy firmly believed in the U.S. commitment to Israeli security, but his Middle Eastern policy saw ambitious Pan-Arabic initiatives of Gamal Abdel Nasser. In 1960, Kennedy stated: "Israel will endure and flourish. It is the child of hope and the home of the brave. It can neither be broken by adversity nor demoralized by success. It carries the shield of democracy and it honors the sword of freedom".[19]

    Subsequently, as president, Kennedy initiated the creation of security ties with Israel, and he is credited as the founder of the US-Israeli military alliance (which would be continued under subsequent presidents). Kennedy ended the arms embargo that the Eisenhower and Truman administrations had enforced on Israel. Describing the protection of Israel as a moral and national commitment, he was the first to introduce the concept of a 'special relationship' (as he described it to Golda Meir) between the US and Israel.[20]

    Kennedy extended the first informal security guarantees to Israel in 1962.[21] Beginning in 1963, Kennedy allowed the sale to Israel of advanced US weaponry (the MIM-23 Hawk), as well as to provide diplomatic support for Israeli policies which were opposed by Arab neighbours, such as its water project on the Jordan River.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forei...Kennedy_administration#Israel_and_Arab_states
     
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    Sure he would have Sanders could have appointed him Ambassador to Cuba or special envoy to Russia where he could bring back more socialist ideas.
     
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    Oswald called himself a patsy because the Dallas PD had him under arrest for shooting the president---which they never ever demonstrated or proved. And he knew that since he was on the inside working with the CIA they considered him expendable. He was hardly "crazy"..
    Your "understanding" of the issue is frightening.
     
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