We Don't Have a Gun Problem, We Have a Black Problem

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  1. ManWithNoName

    ManWithNoName Active Member Past Donor

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    Maybe that's because for centuries there have been people like you doing their very best to ensure that blacks don't have the same opportunities as everyone else, pack them in ghettos, underfund their schools, create mandatory minimum sentencing laws for crack (more prevalent in black communities) but not cocaine (more prevalent in white communities) even though they're both of the same origin, ignore (or rather embrace) systemic racism in our culture, lionize the Confederacy and generally attempt to blame all of society's ills on a group of people that only in the 1960's achieved equal protection/rights under the law?

    How about you reread the "he who is without sin can throw the first stone" parable or the one about the Samaritan woman again and find a way to help a community of people that you believe needs it instead of demonize them?
     
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    nra37922 Well-Known Member

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    Hey all you Yankee's, y'all won the War of Northern Aggression so what the F has happened?

    Y'all broke it now fix it.............
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  3. TheImmortal

    TheImmortal Well-Known Member

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    Because ALL men aren't the problem. Maybe the numbers are too big. Here let's try this.

    We have 10 people. 3 blacks and 7 whites. Those 10 people committed 20 violent crimes. That makes that group look pretty bad right?

    But if we drill down into the numbers and we see that the three black people were responsible for 15 of the violent crimes while the other five were committed by two of the white people.

    Is the whole group really to blame? Or just the black population?
     
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    TheImmortal Well-Known Member

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    They're arrest numbers.
     
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    TheImmortal Well-Known Member

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    If you have reason to believe one or several of those are highly impactful on one race as opposed to another then absolutely.
     
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    Not sure they can find recruits. TBH, the arguments put forth by the aforementioned groups are incredibly embarrassing.
     
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    TheImmortal Well-Known Member

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    No my intention is to point out the hypocrisy of people like Vegas giant as being racist towards whites but crying when there's racism against blacks.

    That wouldn't describe you also would it?
     
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    FACTS don't matter, feelings are numero uno.
     
  9. TheImmortal

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    That's funny because Native Americans and Hebrews have both endured FAR more oppression than blacks have and yet they don't commit that level of violent crime.

    Furthermore these rates are not just true in the US. Blacks are overrepresented in regards to violent crime in literally EVERY country who keeps track of those statistics segmented by race.

    Your argument doesn't hold water.
     
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    That is the problem. The focus is on the group itself and not on the specific behavior.
     
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    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

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    The issue of this thread is important. We're part of the problem if we can't even summon the strength to look at it.

    There are any number of ways to view this problem:

    We can ignore it. (How's that working?)
    We can implement progressive education ideas. (How's that working?)
    We can provide a progressive welfare system. (How's that working?)

    It's time for a change.

    As far as I'm concerned, any publicity the issue gets is good publicity.
     
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    Do you have a citation for that?
     
  13. TheImmortal

    TheImmortal Well-Known Member

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    Let me ask you a question. Same one I asked some of these other people.

    Do you support laws and programs which are explicitly discriminatory against white people? Men specifically?
     
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    sure. And while you're looking I'd just like to point out that blacks are overrepresented in regards to EVERY violent crime we keep track of. Whereas not ONE other race is overrepresented in even ONE category of violent crime... much less every single one of them.

    https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2014/crime-in-the-u.s.-2014/tables/table-43

    That's a problem. A serious problem. And no amount of crying by these people about how racist I am for pointing it out, is going to fix that problem.
     
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    Your post sounds exactly like what blue states do..why is that?
     
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    Not at all.
     
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    TheImmortal Well-Known Member

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    Great. So you're against affirmative action? You're against minority grants and loans from the government? You're against tax credits to businesses and government entities who hire minorities or minority contractors?
     
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    Arrests are 69% white and 28% blacks. I don’t really get your point?
     
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    Arrests yes. But those aren't all violent crimes. What's my point?

    Blacks represent 14% of the total population. Yet they commit:

    51.3% of our total Murder
    29.9% of our total Rape
    55.9% of our total Robbery
    33.1% of our total forcible assault
    30.2% of our total Burglary
    37.7% of our total violent Arson

    That's my point. They are overrepresented in literally EVERY category of violent crime we keep track of. Not one other race is overrepresented in even ONE category. Much less every single one of them.
     
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    So What? What is Your Point? What is your solution?

    Can you show us what’s the conviction rates are as well? Arrests doesn’t necessarily mean they are guilty.
     
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    ManWithNoName Active Member Past Donor

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    Because we have racists too.

    Tell me, are Mississippi, Georgia, Alabama, Louisiana and South Carolina all provide a better opportunity and less racism for African Americans than New York, California, Delaware and Maryland?

    Or maybe is it a racism problem and not really a political problem?
     
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    That's not the extent of AA. Affirmative Action also covers disabled people, veterans, and women, many of whom are definitely not minorities. I don't care for affirmative action, but for my own reasons.
     
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    So what do you suggest the solution is?
     
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    Yes they do in the upstate of south Carolina where I live now..
     
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    ManWithNoName Active Member Past Donor

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    How many Native Americans are left? Are you looking to give reservations to blacks?

    Who's had it worse off in THIS country, African Americans or Jewish Americans?
     

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