Would you rather have Russians or liberals interfering in our elections?

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  1. ChoppedLiver

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    I bet it kills you that normal, intelligent Americans trust the Russians more than your lib/prog ilk.
     
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    :roflol::roflol:LMAO!!!:roflol::roflol:
     
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    what to do.. oh what to do... oh I don't know... to have to choose between 2 Leftist Kook Democrats or a couple anonymous Russian gals..
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    Well, with Hillary, the left's MSM partners, the DNC, and the Super Delegates they "acquire", and I can see where that was too much corruption and collusion for Bernie to overcome, even with Russian support.
     
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    You see what you want to see apparently
     
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    Well, I'm just going by what the indictment spelled out regarding the Russians love for Bernie, and by what has already been proven regarding Hillary, the DNC, and those Super Delegates.

    Have you had trouble seeing those facts?
     
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    Liberals can't "interfere" in their own elections any more than conservatives can. Both Dems and Republicans can and do cheat though.
     
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    I have always wondered how the US electorate finding out the Truth about the DNC/Hillary campaign meddling directly with our electoral process ( in relation to what was done to Sanders) "Harmed our electoral process"

    How does this make any sense ? How does the electorate finding out "The Truth" harm our electoral process. (as opposed to being fed propaganda or false narratives as is now the mainstay of our MSM and various other bureaucrats that represent our intelligence community and politicians)

    This kind of Orwellian doublespeak coming out of the mouths of politicians, political pundits and the MSM is becoming far too common for my liking.
     
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    We know who is being manipulated. Based on the indictment Drumpf falsely claims some sort of exoneration. Naturally, as they do everything he says, his minions believe this incorrect assertion.
     
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    I understand why you are defensive on the issue of Russian influence. After all, Putin must have had a reason he wanted Don elected which caused him to put so much effort in to it. I think the number of people exposed to FB posts alone was around 150M. We'll never know how many votes went to Don because of Russian interference. Top that off with Don losing the popular vote by 3M and it isn't hard to see why you would demand evidence that is unattainable. Ironically, it was Comey who delivered the fatal blow to Hillary's chances.

    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-comey-letter-probably-cost-clinton-the-election/
     
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    Well, as discussed earlier, if you get your political education from FB, you really don’t have any credibility to complain about accuracy of facts.

    Russians or not, FB is a cesspool of propoganda and misinformation. If we have a generation of leftist leaning snowflakes who never learned how to filter legitimate info, well, live and learn. Don’t blame others for your own failings.

    BTW, why do you believe so many Hillary supporters were supposedly so easily influenced by bad propaganda? Intellect?? Too many years of indoctrinated education? Never having developed critical thought? You must have some insights.
     
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    Dig up something about obstruction of justice? Yeah, I guess trump's own admission on national tv that he obstructed justice requires a huge shovel to dig up a charge.

    I guess trump whining to reporters about "fighting back being considered obstruction of justice" was a throw away line.

    I guess all those meetings with russians that the trumpettes repeatedly lied about is nothing. I guess the time line matched up to russian actions and trumpian statements is merely coincidence.

    But by all means keep dreaming, but don't be surprised if you are rudely awakened.
     
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    What you’ve offered is more useless wishful thinking. I can get greater insights from the toy prize in a Cracker Jack box. :roll:

    You pride yourself on “facts”, but again you swim in a cesspool of speculation. Wouldn’t it be more productive to analyze what we know instead of what you want to believe?
     
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    Would you rather have Russians or liberals interfering in our elections?

    I'm not sure there's much of a difference between Russians and liberals, except maybe that I trust Russians much more than I trust liberals
     
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    When you accept how liberals have behaved since the election, it’s hard to deny your conclusion. Liberal/Leftists have done more to undermine and damage our system post-Trump than any pesky Russians.
     
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    actually, I said "would rather have Russians interfere," meaning 1) Russians are a better influence than liberals since they are not aspiring communists and 2) Russians supported Trump, as I did, who was advocating limited govt conservativism rather than a big govt dictatorship. So you see, it does not mean I support dictatorship in any imaginable way. See what happens when a liberal tries to be smart?
     
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    typical violent liberal trying to shut down democratic debate because he lacks the IQ to defend his irrational positions. Ever see conservatives afraid to debate or afraid of free speech?
     
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    I'm trying to figure out if this is an anti America site......... Maybe this isn't a good fit for me.
     
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    actually pro American thread asking you to consider how evil liberals truly are. Do you understand?
     
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    Liberal are Americans, are they not? As an Independent, I have no issue with parties voicing differences in position and policy platforms. For instance, I am a staunch critic of PC politics but I would never go so far as to choose a Russian over an American because I disagree with someone's politics or call an American un-American because I despise their agenda. That is a troubling position to assert.
     
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    It's stunning that Trump supporters seem completely unbothered )with a few exceptions) by the Russian interference in our elections.

    It leaves me to believe that they want it to continue because they believe it will help them in 2018 and 2020.

    I find that more than a little troubling
     
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    I find it troubling that “interference” was known and largely ignored since 2014, and you and other liberals don’t seem to care. It only became an issue after your gal lost.

    It’s also troubling that Hillary colluded with Russians, through several intermediaries, to make up dirt to undermine her opponent and therefore interfere in the election. Somehow that’s never ruffled your feathers. Why not?

    BTW, please define for me exactly what “interference in our election” means. It seems to be a favorite phrase of the left, but rarely defined in concrete terms.
     
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    Hahahahaahah.

    Projection seems to be your "go to". Thanks for the completely information free response. But the again its a known fact that some partisan sleuths make inspector clouseau look like sherlock holmes.
     
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    So you haven't bothered to read the dossier, the IC report, the DNI report, the senate minority report, the mueller indictments?

    I find it interesting that you ignore all the evidence and then demand that the evidence be produced. Are you that situationally unaware or is it just the usual tactic?
     

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