Mass Shootings-Why Do We Insist On Thinking Anything Can Be Done?

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  1. Russell Hellein

    Russell Hellein Well-Known Member

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    What does German bombing causalities have to do with a discussion of gun regulation (if that is where the 60,000+ came from). The British homicide rate is far lower than the US one and has been for a long time.
     
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    Already responded to earlier. Read the thread. I'm not going to keep repeating the point.
     
  3. dairyair

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    No one is offended. Laughing is more the term.
    Gun control works all across the world.

    NOTE: I'm not in favor of an all out gun ban. Which is probably the next silly thought to crop into your head.
     
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    How Lesh does not really care about don't -really- care about kids getting gunned down?

    Simple: Lesh wants to ban all semi-auto firearms but refuses to campaign for the confiscation of same.
    Absent confiscation, nothing will change as 50,000,000 or so semi-auto weapons will remain on the market.
    So, Lesh supports a 'solution' what will not address the issue - thus, Lesh does not really care.
     
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    Typically by making it next to impossible to get a gun.
     
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    Me too, I say phuck it all; we decided long ago as a society that we could live with this. All the half staffing of flags, cavalier grass seed style broadcasting about of thoughts and prayers and faux grief and outrage are for those who cannot face the reality that this is just what american society is. Deal with it already, we decided long ago this was gonna be how it is.
     
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    More honest is...Kids are taking the Vietnam protests to a new level....Things only get done in congress when enough people start b*tching. GO KIDS!
     
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    Don't hold your breath
     
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    It took 20 years for the Vietnam protests to work...but it won't take that long for this country's baby sitters to have an effect. It only took two weeks for the state government of WV to cave into pay raises for teachers when they went on strike. How long do you think it will take congress, if the kids refuse to go back to class until reform is passed? GO KIDS!
     
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    Protests of the US involvement in Vietnam started in 1949?
     
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    If kids choose not to go back to class the rest of the school year and flunk out they are welcome to go back next year and repeat the grade. Of course, for those who are seniors that would be incredibly stupid of them to not finish out the year. Kids aren't in a union and therefore can't really do what the teachers in WV did.
     
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    @TheResister has now been banned in the last couple of hours! Was he too conservative I wonder.
     
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    I think gun control. Though it will take years to be fully effective. So school security (real security, not vigilante-teachers) is important in the short term. Fortunately, we can do both.
     
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    Wow. You figured that out?
    Proves, gun control works. Or at least you admit that.
     
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    And most of those kids, will be voting in a few years. The next generation has had enough.
     
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    I loved when obama said to them,”we’ ve been waiting for you...we got your backs”
     
  20. Russell Hellein

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    Vietnam was not being protested by high school students primarily
     
  21. dairyair

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    The most destructive generation of our time, the boomers, of which I am at the very end of, damaged this country biggggllly.
    tRUMP, being the top end of the boomers.
    The sooner the boomers leave power, the better for the country.
    And to think it was the parents and grandparents of the boomers, considered the greatest generation to live. They f'd up their kids though.

    After stating all that, the boomers are the transition generation. From hard core religious fanatics to open minded equality fanatics. There's just a huge age spread and a mix of both beliefs. The older one's being stuck in the 1800s and early 1900s.
     
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    Nope, that was college kids being sent to Vietnam.
    Today, the HS students are the ones being killed. And they've had enough.

    Edit: college kids basically got to skip Vietnam. But their age group was being sent off if they didn't go to college.
     
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    Lets says that schools were secured enough to the point that they were virtually impenetrable from a single kid with a gun because lets just say there is an armed officer at every entry point. There would not need to be one single gun law passed in order to prevent another mass school shooting. On the other hand, lets say that ZERO measures are taken to make schools more secure but the 2nd amendment is repealed and there is a total ban on guns which is what you want as you stated earlier in this thread. The result? People could still buy guns and schools would not be secure. I agree that we can do both, but securing schools is clearly the more important of the two. Do you not see this?
     
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    Of course making it next to impossible for anyone to have a gun is gun control....duh. That's the point, to make sure pretty much no one has a gun.
    The only wrinkle is this thing called the 2nd Amendment. See, you can't make it next to impossible to get a gun in a country where you have a RIGHT to own a gun. Please tell me you realize this.
     
  25. Dayton3

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    It would do little good. Students still converge on the entrances at schools at about the same time every day and leave in masse from those entrances/exits the same time everyday. Thus they present a "target rich environment" no matter how secure the school itself is.
     

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