Many in government say that if we give them our guns they will keep us safe.

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  1. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    It is kind of insulting (and not intellectually honest) to use anti-gun websites. I'm sure you wouldn't appreciate the use of NRA websites to prove a point against you. Find some neutral site to use.
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    District of Columbia until the Supreme Court stopped them for one.
     
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    Who?
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Having a gun in the house also increases your chance of defending against a home invasion.

    Want to have a better shot at surviving that then get a gun.
     
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    Always the way to win any argument about any topic, just keep repeating "Chicago".
     
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    Comes in handy for murdering teenagers walking through the neighborhood too, stay scared my friends.
     
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    The British said the same thing to the Colonies!
     
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    So the colonists rioted and looted.
     
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    The entire district wanted people to give up their guns?
     
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    Yep, their politicians, elected by the people, wanted them removed.

    Can't get more clearer than that.
     
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    My all-time favorite. You just can't beat the heft and that big hole in front.
     
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    And all the people in the district voted for those politicians?
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Where did I say all?

    The comment was made that nobody wanted to take all the guns, that is what I showed was a false statement.

    There are plenty of people that do and have even tried it.
     
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    When seconds count, the police are minutes away murdering some unarmed black/brown/poor person. Don't worry, be happy, you've supported this.
     
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    Questerr Banned

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    Ah, so the District did not try to take away all guns, a handful of politicians voted in by only part of the population did. How is that “many”?
     
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    The comment was made that NOBODY was trying to take all guns.

    That is what I was responding to.

    Now tell us if that comment was true or false and you will have your answer.

    This isn't rocket science here.
     
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    Explain how my answer was--------------"over the top bull crap hyperbole". Gun grabbing was the reason for that march.
     
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    You were replying to me and I never made that comment, so who exactly are you commenting on?
     
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    Your second post in this thread, you asked who these "many" were and I showed you some of them.

    It is true you never said nobody but my response still stands to your many question. Considering that was only a very tiny portion of the nation and seeing which sides were taken in the Heller case we can see that there are in fact many people that would like all guns gone.

    I could even provide further quotes from people making such a claim if you would like but you know they are out there.
     
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    I can give you a couple dozen other city's with large murder rates, in fact I have several times ;) But I doubt it will convince you or the left, they only have the capacity to morn small numbers of death, anything over a 500 doesn't seem to garner their attention.

    Murders per 100,000 population
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    They aren't worried about Chicago for some reason.

    Guess there aren't enough brown people involved there. They already have the black vote sewn up so their deaths are irrelevant.
     
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    Guns can protect people without even being fired. If you don't want a gun, don't buy one.
     
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    The numbers that form the basis of the article come from the New England Journal of Medicine. If you'd stop firing from the hip and actually read a bit, you would have discovered that. Or perhpas you think that the New England Journal of Medicine is a liberal, left-wing publication.

    If you were better informed, you might also be aware of the fact that Gabby Giffords was a gun-owning member of Congress before she miraculously survived being shot in the brain. But, by eliminating most of my quote from your reply, you've shown which of us "is kind of insulting (and not intellectually honest)."
     
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    Allow me to repeat myself, since you avoided my previous post to the same effect:
    Having a gun in the home is associated with an increased risk of firearm homicide and firearm suicide
    Post hoc fallacy. Correlation does not prove causation.
    Who has since fallen on the gun control bandwagon. Yawn.
    Fact remains: you won't accept information from the NRA, so there's no reason for anyone to accept information from an anti-gun group.
     
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    As Sergeant Sam, of KLBJ, Austin TX fame, once said, "When seconds count, the police are only minutes away."
     

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