Obama’s Legacy Has Already Been Destroyed

Because we all know how Obama and Pelosi and
Harry Reid played politics.They consistently attacked the Tea Party
where even Obama used the porn term " TeaB*ggers ".
I guess the Tea Party was a fiction of one's mind also.
The Tea Party was a grass roots revival of less Taxes and
Government.Conversely Obama and Pelosi and Reid sided with
more and even More Big Brother nanny state.Which explains Obama's
historic record level of new rules and regulations and use of Food Stamps.
Plus Obama Lied about the " urgency " of that Stimulus bill { $ 862 Billion }
Where only 3 % was used in 2009.

 

As long as California is part of this nation, their votes count as much as anyone else's.

 

I don't follow the herd. I voted against the herd, the established major party candidates. The status quo whether it comes from the left or right. Last I looked the Republican Party was part of the establishment and so too is Trump like it or not. He became part of that establishment when he joined the GOP.

Those who are true anti-establishment, true anti-status quo didn't vote for either of the status quo, established parties candidates. Tax cuts has been part of the Republican Party establishment since at least Reagan. Picking up on that is nothing more that going along with what the GOP leaders have believed in for almost 40 years.

 

Correction. That's neoclassical economic theory taught in every university in the USA.

Steve

 

What about the scuttlebutt from even the Gov'ner about the need
secede from the United States.Make California a Sanctuary
State.

 

Irrelevant. Whether they do or don't is no never mind to me. I don't give a hoot owls dang. But as long as they remain part of this nation, their vote counts as much as anyone's else's no matter where they're from.

 

That sounds like it's time to read up on the electoral college again. The electoral college is based upon the representative districts and senate across the country. When voters exceed the population number in the electoral college, then the roughly 4 million voters over and above the electoral college's population number makes those votes virtually meaningless at the national level.

I have no doubt dems will keep trying to scam the system.

Steve

 

True, as much as they are allowed in the Electoral College so the fact that they swing popular vote is irrelevant.

 

We're a Representative Republic, not one mass huge direct democracy. Each state is represented in the electoral college and we vote today to decide how our state will cast it electoral votes. Who wins the presidency is decided by the vote of the states in which each one of us is represented.

there were quite a few states up to the civil war that the state legislature decided whom would receive their electoral votes. Even so, the people were still represented as they voted for the people in their state legislature who in turn voted to decide how that states electoral votes would be awarded.

One reason for the electoral college besides giving each state a say is our framers were afraid of mob rule or majority tyranny.

 

What you fail to acknowledge is the establishment is doing everything they can to get rid of trump as we speak so how can he be part if it?

 

Is it the establishment or is it just Democrats who still can concede Trump won? fact is when Trump became president, he became the head of the establishment.

 

But it's not irrelevant that Hillary amassed a good majority of her
popular votes from said sate { California } .. huh ?
Again ... Earth to Planet .... Way Out There.
I say ... I say ... Earth to Planet .... Way Out There
Do you read ?
Do you copy ?

 

The Establishmnet refers to D.C. As in Washington D.C.
Home to Lobbyists,Bureaucrats and where Pols have their
weekday residences or Apartments.Plus their Offices.
Ronald Reagan was never a part of any Establishment.That's why
he Retired on his Ranch.
Again ... Earth to Planet .... Way Our There ?

 

The popular vote don't mean diddly squat. California's vote is important as to whom they award their 55 electoral votes to. Last time I look, those citizens who lived in California were Americans the same as those who live in Georgia, Texas, Florida or any other states. They just happen to have a different political view point on whom they wanted to be president than those who voted for Trump or the 6% who voted against both Clinton and Trump by voting third party.

 

Reagan was while he was president. He was also when he was governor.

 

Republicans in mass rejected Trump and didn't help him at all in the hopes that democrats could dislodge him. As it became clear Trump was here to stay more and more of them are grudgingly following his lead. He has been successful at dislodging the establishment from their entrenched ways and is bringing them to his way of thinking.

 

For someone to have their legacy destroyed, they first must have one.

 

NO ... actually he wasn't.He was popular in a weird California
way due to his Movies and being the head of the Screen Actors
Guild.He was always ... I mean ... Always as American as Mom,
Apple pie and Baseball.That was his great strength.That is why he\
had to fight the Establishment,just as Trump did to win the Presidency
after Liberal Jimmy Carter.Jimmy Carter was also very Un-Establishment.
The best and frequent example of Un-establishment was Barry Goldwater.
You need to know yer Establishment from yer Escargot.
There's a delicate but distinctive difference.

 

Which begs the question as to how and what defines a legacy.
The democrats have their version.Republicans there's and Libertarians
there's.Which may explain why and how fast Democrats trotted-out the
word ... " Historic " during Obama's 8 years.I mean,it got old rather quick.

 

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That is exactly why the framers of the Constitution created the Electoral College. So that the majority of States have the last word in the election of presidents and not major population States control Washington.

 

It was a lot more than just that. Besides, there has been elections where the winner carried the lesser amount of states. 1976 being a prime example. 27 for Ford, 23 for Carter. 1960 also where Nixon carried 26 to JFK's 22. Basically the electoral college was a compromise in which each state would cast their electoral votes for president based on population and two senators. Prior to the civil war, a lot of states had their state legislatures, not popular votes determined whom that state would cast their electoral votes for. So whomever wins the presidency is determine by each states vote, not by one massive popular vote. Another reason to go to the electoral college was to prevent mob rule or majority tyranny. The framers wanted each state represented and each state to determine whom they would cast their electoral votes for.

 

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Thank you for the input. Each state is given a number based upon its population, for example Rhode Island has 4 electoral votes and California the most populated state has 55.

 

Because Trump won a Majority of States { 30 }.
No matter even a loyal Obama person { " I visited all 57 states " }
means Trump won fair and square.

 

Hillary continues to demonstrate that she is NOT a strong female. She is a weak, "shoulda coulda woulda" female who has fallen so low she can't pick herself up and move on. If the election were to happen today, the people who voted for her then would not vote for her now. But not just because she is a neurotic disfunctional who insults instead of leads.

No, it is because voters are slowly waking up to the big game that is being played on them by the radical Left. The Left has whipped up a blizzard of hatred against the orange man, and for a while it worked. They revel in hatred and spite. This week alone, the Left leadership managed to defend Hamas, MS-13 and Kim Jong Un just to oppose Trump. That, together with the tempest-in-a-teapot Mueller investigation, and people realize they are being whipped up only to bestow power and wealth on the whippers. When people give their blind trust and loyalty to party, and the party uses them as human shields in an attempt to overthrow the government - they tend to get pretty angry.

I don't blame democrat voters for having a lot of repressed rage. Democrats have had to endure decades of brow-beating and threats of being ostracized by their party - bludgeoning them as racists who need to halt their existence so lesser mortals can gain advantage, or drugging them with welfare, telling them what words they can use and what to avoid, making all the men wear their pants back-to-front and apologize for having testosterone - people are sick of it.

 

Well put... It's a shame that the detracting Kling-on Lefties on this forum don't seem to get the message.