A simple fact that is very hard to argue against.

Well then I apologize for that. Maybe you can help tell me what good points the gun grabbers have. You did say that they have some...

 

We generally live out in the sticks, and if you think that this is a perpetual war zone, ummm... then I advise you to stay in the natural home of the lefty which is a sprawling urban environment. Maybe Chicago, perhaps? Lots of gun regulations there.

You'll love it! Much better than here in Trump Valley where it's just one huge trench warfare situation.

 

Because guns kill people and if they get rid of the guns people will stop killing others with guns.

Does not stop the murders, the choice of weapon just changes. But it will make them feel better. At least no one will get killed by a gun! Mission accomplished.

 

and still no good points that don't involve conflating gun offense with good gun defense, or admitting that the mere presence of a gun results in people acting quite civilized. No pointing out how Chicago, with it's many gun regulations is somehow safer than out in the sticks where people are armed and dangerous, no nothing except the blissful sound of gun grabbers being silent for a few minutes because they really have no good points (sorry ECA, but you came up with nothing, as expected) and no relevant statistics.

and suddenly all you guys calling us paranoid have absolutely nothing to say, even though we all know you'll have a lot to say the next time some kids are gunned down in another one of your gun free school zones.

Am I paranoid? No, I don't think so. I think I got your number, and your number is 1-800-DICTATOR

 

LOL and the UK?

 

Obama wanted to be. He even told us he hated the limitations of the Constitution.

 

We wont have a dictator BECAUSE we have guns, and we wont let the left take them away from us.

 

What I said was...’Both sides are trying to have an honest debate and ask relevant questions.’
It’s not my job to make their argument for them. Let them argue their points.

 

No he didn’t.

 

Nope. Not the reason.

 

But he did. Denial is NOT a river in Egypt.

 

Nope

 

Well if you want to split hairs, the black population in the deep south living under living under democrat plantation owners most certainly lived under a dictatorship! Not until they were emancipated by the Republican from north did they shed the tyranny of a dictator/King and owners.

 

Not interested in splitting hairs, but thanks.

 

I understand

 

Control.

 

Only intersted in hearing about an actual dictatorship running the entire country. Hasn’t happed nor will it ever.

 

Which is why Europe is full of dictators and murderous armed criminals.

 

You said they have made good points. I'm saying I haven't heard any good points. Just a lot of garbage that is so easily rebutted that I have only two options...

1. They're idiots
2. They're dishonest

If it was a simple case of idiocy, I'd be relieved. The problem is that I think the intellectual dishonesty is so obvious that it rules out idiocy.

 

So you infer hysteria from one word?

Rather lame.

You on the other hand sound naively complacent.

 

Its not hard to argue against fallacious logic, oh logical one.

 

You say it's not hard, but you offer no rebuttal.

There's an obvious problem with the logic, but... I'm not gonna help you. You dug this hole, so let's see how you get out.

 

When the original premise is incorrect (the left wants to take all guns away) then the rest of the argument is incorrect.

 

I don't argue fallacy. What with another piece of fallacious bullshit?

There's an obvious problem with you thinking I should offer some sort of rebuttal. That's some kinda big hole ya dug there guy.

 

please don't confuse them with actual logic. Theirs fit so nicely into their world view.