A simple fact that is very hard to argue against.

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  1. Belch

    Belch Well-Known Member

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    I have no doubt that this is true. Everything just screams "FAKE!" whenever the left tries explaining why they want more "commonsense gun regulations".

    If they could be honest, just once... but that inability is why I have such a hard time dealing with them.
     
  2. kriman

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    Absolutely true. Now all we have to do is to convince the criminals to lay down their arms.
     
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    I have been hearing the hysteria from the right about "They're taking away our guns, WAAAAHHHHH!!!!" for about 40 years now and KNOW WHAT?

    NO one has ever asked me for my guns or tried to take them away...I still have them, all of them, enough to defend myself and my home..



    I repeat, NO one has ever tried to take them....
     
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    VotreAltesse Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You're words are ridiculous and immature.

    You can't simply call a leader you don't like a dictator. It's an insult to the millions of people who died under Stalin, Hitler or Mao. You have a leader you don't like, you will survive to it, conservative survived to Obama.
     
  5. kriman

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    I just heard Anthony Bourdain committed suicide in France. He did it without a gun.
     
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    Oh, they will take your guns away. The ruling elite want a disarmed people because the sh*t is going to hit the fan when they finally, openly, confess that they want a borderless-world--the burden of which will fall on the West's white shoulders.
    I was in a large chain store yesterday and they are no longer selling guns of any kind. It was kind of shocking. We are headed for gun confiscation.
     
  7. Josh77

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    Because people and organizations like the NRA have fought like hell to keep it that way.
     
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    What does it matter HOW he killed himself?
     
  9. Josh77

    Josh77 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Death first. It will spark a civil war.
     
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    Sure they have they have simply been stopped by the NRA
     
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    Because we keep hearing that people would not kill themselves without guns.
     
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    And who will this civil war be between?
     
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    No you don’t. No one has ever said that.
     
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    Same crap I've been hearing for 40 years and that hasn't happened.

    I thought your Trumpet was going to save you …:)

    Oh, if you want to buy a gun try a gun store....that's where lots of people buy guns....and at gun shows and auctions ….try to break out of your "box store" mind set...
     
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    Well the, don't panic....you'll have your guns.... (shrug)…


    The NRA will always have the gun manufacturers back and will always make a profit off of gun owners...
     
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    Then why the panic ? The NRA will always have the gun manufacturers back and will always make a profit off of gun owners...
     
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    I just went through a long discussion with someone comparing the US suicide rate to other countries who did not allow guns. The claim was that they would not have committed suicide, if they did not have guns available.

    Just a side note. I hate the thought that someone thinks they have to commit suicide in order to end their misery.. However, I will never condemn someone for committing suicide to end their misery. It should be their right.
     
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    Somehow I doubt that is what that person meant. However, one person (you said 'someone') is very different that you saying 'we KEEP hearing'. KEEP hearing indicates you hear this argument over and over. You don't.
     
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    Contrary to that stupid meme the NRA represents it's members not the gun manufacturers.

    And one always has to remain vigilant.
     
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    This reminds me of the constant criticism of Trump. They pick a particular word and then claim that invalidates the whole argument.

    I have repeatedly heard that a very large number of people would not commit suicide if guns were not so easily available. Does that seem clear enough?
     
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    What are the guns the left (everyone) wants to take away?
     
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    :eekeyes::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol: Oh ya, no connection at all between the NRA and gun manufacturers...no sirree and Santa Claus is real...:roflol::roflol:




    Ya, usually though it's when there is a real threat... You have no proof that anyone wants to take all your guns...
     
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    Might there be some who might not since a gun is easier and quicker than hanging or pills or jumping or gas piping? Sure. But no one is saying no one at all would kill themselves if there were no guns. We all know people use other means to kill themselves.
     
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    Except Justice Ginsberg has said we should not have guns.
     
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    However, there are some who say most suicides would be prevented if we did not have guns.
     

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