Supreme court rules against Muslims entering USA . Trump did it.

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  1. chris155au

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    You mean MerriCK Garland?
     
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    Why do you say "Muslims?"
     
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    MGB ROADSTER Banned

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    What should i say ? Arabs ?
     
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    Supreme Court Upholds Trump Travel Ban, Giving President Win on Signature Issue!

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    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...avel-ban-upheld-by-u-s-supreme-court-jivrzei4


    And his dumbfounded followers celebrate their "Lord of Lies" in the White House as always ... and as always they do not want to know the full facts and truth, or they attack all those who expose this as I do as evil, vengeful liberals and left wingers ... just to silence the truth!

    Fact # 1
    Of the original 6 Muslim countries, only 5 are left ... and these 5 have been supplemented by 2 other more hostile and not Muslim countries. On the whole, the ban affects these 7 countries:
    Iran, Libya, North Korea, Somalia, Syria, Venezuela and Yemen.

    So Trump had to repeal the ban on an Islamic country ... Iraq ... but he also had to make concessions in terms of content, because, for example, green card holders and valid visas should be spared the ban, which was not the case in the first draft the case was.
    Of course not an open word from Trump that he had to make concessions and of course ignorant silence with the Trump fans!

    Fact # 2
    Trump has won the Supreme Court with a tight 5: 4 decision only because he played the "Beat All Arguments Card" of US National Security ... means in detail: Trump's argument for the Ban is that he is thus the entry of wants to prevent enemy terrorists in the US.
    Then let's take a look at the actual facts and not the Trump Fake BS ...

    If we look at all Islamic terrorist attacks in Europe, Australia and the US since 9/11, then 95% of the attacks are from the terrorists from those countries.
    Saudi Arabia, Morocco, Tunisia, Algeria, the Gulf States, Afghanistan, Indonesia, Philippines, Iraq, Libya.
    Entering citizens from these countries is undoubtedly an increased security risk ... but is one of these countries on Trump's ban list, or is it just intended, according to statements from the Trump administration, that one of these countries should come to that? NO!

    So the whole thing with the terrorist defense as argument and reason is a single and total lie of Trump ... and there is nothing to discuss and deny about!

    Fact # 3

    And when we take a closer look at these 7 countries, it becomes even clearer that Trump is about something quite different from defending terror! All 7 countries are considered more hostile to the US in terms of governments, or large parts of their populations. So, in truth, it's a punishment of countries that reject cuddling with the US and are unwilling to cooperate with the US, at least at the level of regimes and governments ... perhaps with good intentions with the term national security can be justified, but in no case with defense of a terrorist threat, because there are other countries far more dangerous!

    And as proof of that fact is Iran! Yes, Iran is for the right-wingers the image of evil and how much Trump and his puppets in Washingtoin Iran we hate too. Conversely, the US is of course just as popular in Iran ... but what acute terrorist threat actually comes from Iran? The answer is NO DANGER!!!
    Why? Who are the evil, Iran-funded terrorists whose presence in Syria exasperates Israel? Hezbollah!
    From what country does Hezbollah come, Iran? No ... they come from Lebanon and Lebanon is NOT on the ban list either. Conclusion: protection effect against terrorists from Iran with Ban against the Iran = ZERO !!!
    And when it comes to agents of Iranian intelligence, whose entry you want to prevent, then I get a laugh attack! If Iran plans terrorist attacks with its agents, it will send them with Iranian passports to the US! Ridiculous....

    The bottom line and conclusion of it:
    Trump won just in court, but the US lost, and all because the "Lord of Lies and Fake News" is clever enough to blind large parts of US people!
     
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    The bottom line and conclusion of it:

    Trump won just at court, but the US lost, and all because the "Lord of Lies and Fake News" is clever enough to blind the people not to see the facts!
     
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    I agree, and I wonder if that might not be the case of in the vehicular homicide case where Heather Hyer was killed in the rioting in Charlottelsville , VA. Counterprotestors, including Myers, were blocking the street attempting to stop the march of protestors protesting the removal of a Robt E Lee statue.
     
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    This is a perfect illustration of what a set of ROGUE judges there are out there, who judge from their personal politics, not from the LAW. These lousy judges refusing to do their jobs properly should be held up in ridicule, for exactly what they are, > Fools, who put their own personal politics above the safety of the American people, endangering national security in the process. Here they are >>

    1. US District Court Judge James Robert, in Seattle, WA

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    2. Washington Governor Jay Inslee, who after the Robart decision struck the Trump ban down in Feb. 2017, said "..we should feel heartened by today's victory and more resolute than ever that we are fighting on the right side of history." WRONG! He should feel ashamed that he called a reduction of national security a "victory", which now is a defeat for him, which Washington voters should remember.

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    3. Judge Derrick K. Watson of US District Court in Honolulu

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    Here is a comment from your link article, from Joel Stein >>

    "Would you advocate unlimited Muslim immigration into Israel, a measure that would be clearly suicidal for Israel's Jewish identity? Then why would you encourage it for the US? Just like Israel, the US also has a national identity to protect -- a civilizational identity that is Judeo-Christian. In this light, any Jewish advocacy against limits to Muslim immigration into the US -- in the name of claimed "humanist principles" -- is not only liberal hypocrisy, but also liberal idiocy. Furthermore, if Muslims would like to flood Europe and North America by way of Hijrah", let's see widespread Christian and Jewish communities and places of worship filling the landscape across Saudi Arabia first!"
     
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    I do too, as do most clear-thinking Americans who know that unrestricted Muslim immigration to America is idiocy (if not suicide).
    Democrat vote stacking has lost.
    National security has won.
     
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    Trump won in court, the US won !
    Most clear-thinking Americans know that unrestricted Muslim immigration to America is idiocy (if not suicide).
     
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    FALSE! The 9/11 hijacker-killers came here on visas. They would have been stopped, if Saudi Arabia were listed in the ban. Don't be surprised if it is, SOON.

    As for your visions of alternate routes to the US, any rule can be violated if one is willing to violate laws, use fake documents , etc. The ban does make it more difficult though, and can discourage more bad guys from coming here. Also, no one has ever said this ban is the last word. Remember, this ban was a watering down of previous tougher bans, which Trump himself said were preferable.

    There's no reason to believe that those stronger bans, with more safeguards written in, will not now be enacted. Let the rogue judges strike them down too, and let the SCOTUS strike down the rogue judges, again and again. Lots of ground yet to be covered here. This could be just the first win of a bunch more wins.
     
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    Maybe he is one Who knows ?
     
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    Give it time. Nobody said it has to stop as it is.
     
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    Indeed, let Europe be a lesson for you before it's too late, because once the flood gates are opened, there's no closing them.
     
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    NONSENSE! First of all, the abomination of Islam is as far from being a religion as anything could ever be, and anyone who could be duped into regarding it as such, is a prime candidate for my sale of the Brooklyn Bridge.

    Secondly, Islam is outlawed the "Constitution" in Article 6 Section 2, Part 1 (the Supremacy Clause), and just because (like much immigration law) this hasn't been enforced, doesn't make it any less THE LAW.

    Bravo for the 5 members of the Supreme Court.
     
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    NONSENSE! Israel is the #1 buffer against terrorism. Long live Israel.
     
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    Of course it's a big win for the nation's security. Good grief! What Muslim Brotherhood front group do you belong to ? No sane, objective American would say what you just said.
     
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    absolutely nothing to do with the article which was on the very swift change in your judiciary, simply noting as is most people where the US may be headed.

    I would have thought if you wanted to make a comment on an article you would have the brain power to make one yourself and not look to find one which was not even talking about what the article was talking about. You are just time wasting.

    The article was suggesting the US institutions would not be sufficient to protect US from the worst of the far right and the Haaretz writer is by no way the only people to have thought this

    https://www.theguardian.com/comment...ions-wont-keep-you-safe-trumps-excesses#img-1

    Institutions can’t save America from Trump

    I am not a Blair fan but the US has always liked him. Here is where he thinks the US is taking the West

    Tony Blair: return to dark 1930s politics no longer far-fetched

    But look you guys hate the Democrats so much, there may be a middle way

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...es-upset-joe-crowley-alexandria-osacio-cortez

    well done USA


    Now please if you have a comment to make on an article I put it in, make it yourself and do not choose instead one someone else wrote which is off topic as this one was.
     
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    For now.
     
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    Yes, just a terrible accident.

    It certainly wasn't a neo nazi dickhead propelled by trumpkin ideology who murdered the white girl.
     
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    I will reply in whatever methodology I choose to reply in, as long as it is within govt and forum rules. If you don't like it, tough. I rarely quote other people articles and have authored hundreds of OPs and tens of thousands of posts,and I don't need coaching from you or anyone else in this forum.

    As for my "brain power", I've done more research for 17 years on Islam, terrorism, and Islamization than probably 90% of the posters here. While they were watching TV, smoking pot, playing the guitar or whatever, I was burning the midnight oil, poring through dozens of books on the subject, and will put my knowledge of it up against anyone.
     
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    And I'll guess you don't have a shred of evidence that it was. I certainly don't see you presenting anything here.
     
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    That could be later today. LOL
     
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    I will check that then. To put in off topic comments that someone else has made to an article presented is not being honest. I will ignore or possibly report next time.
    well that is the sort of thing extremists do but even with dedicating your life to finding dirt on Islam you were unable to provide an answer yourself but wanted to answer so much you trolled the comments of an article to find something off topic to put in. In reality your research would have been absolutely useless as what the article was about was not about Muslims but about the Institutions of the US as I dealt with in my reply to you.
     
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    f this is a victory for the US in your eyes, then I'd better not know what a defeat is ...

    And funny, that immigration is secondary only the subject of the whole and it is primarily about the legal entry with visa for people from these 7 States which is banned!
    That you Trump fans always have to throw everything together and then use the mixed BS as argument is really strange ... o dear!
     
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