For those on the Progressive Left who hate America...

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by kazenatsu, Jul 8, 2018.

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  1. james M

    james M Banned

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    a conservative would not finance a Nazi or communist, acting in his capacity as a conservative, since Nazis and communists are liberals who believe in huge govt while conservatives believe in the exact opposite. Apparently what you have done is create a strawman without knowing. Do you understand?
     
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    that was about a war and all sides suppressed them for being unpatriotic during a war or at the beginning of a war. Lincoln Adams Wilson did far more than that making anti war activities a crime. But in any case it was about a war not ideology so its a trivial example. Sorry!
     
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    Again at best a very very trivial example given that conservatives don't support violence and KKK is not even conservative. Liberals have violently shut down free speech on most college campuses on America for example. Thats massive by 10,0000 times compared to one incident in VA. Most importantly, its natural for liberals and can only grow since they lack the IQ for democratic debate. How can they defend an ideology that slowly killed 120 million. They cant so they naturally turn to violence.
     
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    gerrymandering is legal, non violent, and both parties do it as much as possible. 1+1=2
     
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    Left-wingers are extremely selective and hypocritical when it comes to "free speech." Just look at our college campuses today.
     
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    No, we don't expect a "utopia." We want a country that moves away from having 2% of our wealthiest families owning and controlling 98% of our nation's wealth, leaving 2% of the wealth for 98% of our population to compete for in their daily existence. How about a system that provides a larger percentage for the larger population? Call it socialism or whatever you want, just make it more fair.
     
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    Econ 101: its not zero sum game. Bill Gates can earn all he wants but that does not mean it will be coming out of your earnings. Whoever told you it was was tricking you into doing his bidding. Now that you know the truth what will you do?
     
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    Hey, who needs another point of view when yours is correct!
     
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    Why not take that up with God? Tell him its not fair that some people have the ability invent cures for cancer and Iphones while others don't have the ability to invent anything!
     
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    Is this your way of preserving the "status quo"?
     
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    No, Bill Gates' wealth (or any super wealthy family) isn't coming from my earnings. It goes directly to them BEFORE I get my trifle income. They don't take it FROM me; they prevent me from ever having it in the first place, because they have a direct link to it's production, and their success acts as a barrier to any competitor, thus eliminating the chance of spreading the wealth. A few families in the U.S. and an equal percentage of families around the world have the wealth all wrapped up for themselves with little access for the rest of us. You may defend that system if you feel comfortable with it. I don't.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Look at all the countries in the world. Do you notice how there seems to be an inverse relationship between diversity and level of wealth equality?

    That's even true if you look individually at the states in the U.S.

    Just something to think about.
     
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    You mean part of Bill's income would have gone to you if only Bill wasn't so successful?
     
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    except racists who by their very racism are dehumanizing the subjects of their hate. Funny how racists never figger that out.
     
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    THREAD LOCKED - Rules 3 and 11

    A flamebaiting thread title precludes the possibility of respectful debate.
     
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