Why Outlaw Assault Rifles

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  1. Well Bonded

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    I already have, read the tread and my comment about AR's or button up.

    Bottom line Assault Rifles are already heavily regulated, never been used in a mass shooting, so why ban them?
     
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    You haven't made a point. The AR15, semi-auto, is as deadly as the M4. Most of the time 11Bs, and 0311s, don't fire on full auto. AR15s have been used in mass shootings.
     
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    Sorry not at all, AR-15's are nowhere as deadly when it comes to laying down fire as a fully automatic firearm can, that is unless you subscribe to Hollywood or the anti-gun bullcrap.
     
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    Most of the time when an AR-15 is used in a mass shooting, the same or fewer people die than were killed with Taurus revolver at the University of Iowa in 1991; only twice has someone armed with an "assault weapon" killed more than were killed with two pistols, one of which was a .22.

    Mother Jones shows 28 mass shootings using "assault weapons" since 1984; it was 48 years after the introduction of the AR-15 to civilians that a civilian used one in a mass shooting. Neither of the two mass shootings that exceed the VT death toll reach the death toll of the Nice truck attack.
     
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    Sorry pal, it's Hollywood that subscribes to the magic bullcrap of fully automatic weapons. As I said, most of the time in combat soldiers and Marines are firing on semi auto.
     
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    Yeah, that's why Special Forces carry Taurus revolvers. :roflol:
     
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    Which means absolutely nothing of relevance regarding the "deadly" aspect of any particular firearm.
     
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    So what professional killers use means nothing? And they use M4s on semi auto.
     
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    We aren't talking about combat - we're talking about the use of certain semi-automatic rifles in mass shootings in a civilian environment. The SF kills a lot more people with a radio or crew served weapons than they do with a service rifle.
     
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    You are confusing the subject, we are talking about mass shootings, perpetrated by lightly skilled shooters, not trained warriors

    Given that ignorance of the shooter, a mass shooter with a fully automatic firearm, can do a lot more carnage, then the same lightly trained shooter can do with a semiautomatic firearm, it's called spray and pray.
     
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    No way.
     
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    And here in the US, in a civilian environment, lightning strikes kill more people each year, on average, than do mass shooters armed with AR-15s.
     
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    A 12-gauge with a slug is equally lethal. You have a few rounds. Put a good scope, some ACOG on it and let it rip.

    A shotgun is also a smooth barrel. Untraceable projectile. Untraceable!!

    So now what comes next from you as a proposal? Ban shotguns too?

    That's your next liberalising move I can guess.

    After the shotguns ban pistols because they're concealable I guess.

    After than ban oxygen.

    And those who still manage to live, ban time, like in the movie Time with Justin Timberlake.
     
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    And where do you think the next mass shooter looking for his minute in the the media spotlight gets his training from?
     
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    I give up, where?
     
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    I haven't said anything about banning anything. I'm just keeping the discussion honest.
     
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    Honest is talking about the other alternatives a mass psycho brainwashed by the MK ULTRA can use. And that is a 12-gauge.
     
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    By watching what they learn from media, be it Hollywood, TV or on-line.

    These mentally perverted ass's do not understand firearms, other than the carnage one in their hands can cause, they don't go to the range to learn to how to shoot, nor like a warrior "understand one shot one kill."

    They will spray and pray someone, until someone else takes them out.

    They just want to go out in a flash and be remembered for what evil they did or as a payback for whatever reason their cause was.
     
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    Correct.

    And it is trained soldiers, not professional killers. Professional killers are assassins and hit men.

    Which, again, means absolutely nothing of relevance. It does not matter if the M4 carbine is used in a semi-automatic capacity by trained soldiers, "deadly" is not measured in terms of semi-automatic capabilities.
     
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    No reason to scope a shotgun, it's a aim and nail up close firearm.
     
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    Sadly that is incorrect, very incorrect.
     
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    A slug can cut you up in 100 meters no prob. How are you gonna hit 100 meters target no scope? What are you, a Rambo?
     
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    Give me the situation, because I can tell you from personal experience you are wrong.
     
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    as always..when seconds count, the cops are only minutes away
     
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    In a shooting house, you use a pump 12 gauge, and I'll use the civilian version, semi auto, of the M4, and we'll see who is more successful.
     
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