Yeah, and the enemy will wait for you to stay there standing and aim for two minutes. Urban combat does not forgive and you clearly have no idea.
Your logic is weak as a weasel. So you want to ban carbines like the M4. Because the military carries ʼem, and they're "lethal to civilians if used in a mass shooting". Are you aware that a lot of mass shootings still happen by ex-military? And active military! I can post you a few links. Or you probably remember the instances. Maybe even with their military issued carbines. The Navy also saw a few shootings there. So your idea is to give coppers and whacko crazed vets access to rifles, so we can defend ourselves from them with stones? You can't be serious.
Yes but you are hinting towards that. And you're giving liberalism enough food to continue their fight. You're giving them material, facts, so when they Google "guns are bad" - your comments are gonna pop out! And to the unarmed eyes and people that have no gun culture, your comments and point appear strong at first.
I am not. Look, man. I carry a huge knife. I have a Cold Steel Rajah II. I've carried knives for 17 years. I carry a knife since I was 9. I carry guns. I never did anything bad to anyone. And someone going and denying me that RIGHT & PRIVILEGE, a great hobby for me, and a way to defend myself, they're actually making me suffer for someone else's mistakes. It's not right.
I'm going to explain this to you one more time. My point is this notion that the civilian versions of the M16/M4/etc., because they're semi-auto, are a lot less weapon than the military version because they're not full auto capable is not true. Yes there are situations where full auto is a handy thing to have, like fire suppression, but by and large, soldiers are firing on semi-auto, therefore the civilian version is just as good as the military version. Having said that, if push came to shove here in America I would prefer a platform that fires the 7.62 and I would feel very comfortable going against a full auto M4 with a semi-auto M1A. And I say with a lot of experience firing a full auto capable M14. Of course I wouldn't mind having a SAW around either.
I agree. Semi "is a must" for mid to long engagements. Nobody fires Auto since you're gonna empty your ammo this fast. And you can't aim with Auto. You just spread and dibble. Auto maybe when you have a lot of Taliban upfront or you're suppressing. Auto for short quarter and even not Auto but 3-round controlled burst is better. Some H&Ks have that. But even after that, I won't go and ban that.
As usual you show your ignorance of firearms. An AR15 is not an assault rifle, it is a semi-automatic sporting rifle. AR stands for Armalite, the company that designed he rifle. Also, Tommy guns are not banned, you can still buy them. You need a class 3 license, and a good chunk of money, but they can still be bought. And yes, in the military I did provide suppressive fire. The average Joe cannot afford a select fire rifle or the license fees and extensive background check. But you can still own them You might want to die a little research on firearms before you open your mouth and look like an idiot again.
In the US there are approximately 15000 murders per year using firearms. The Ar15 or other rifles are used in less than 400 of those deaths. Yet you want to ban them due to your ignorance and prejudices. More people die from physician mistakes, than murder... approximately 115000 per year. Should we ban doctors? Approximately 40000 die in vehicle crashes, should we ban automobiles and motorcycles? Over half a million babies are aborted per year in the US, should we ban abortion? Banning firearms is not about crime, it's about taking away freedom. The same reason we kicked your British arses out of our country. And by the way, I have been reading about a lot of shootings taking place in England and Australia...Guess criminals still don't obey the law.
No, I don't want anything. I think they will be banned because of their repeated and iconic use in very high profile massacres. That is the brand name AR15 has. Kiddie murderers weapon of choice.
Yes mate we all know the pedantry. Knowing what the letters stand for doesn't make you special. It's an assault rifle. Limited to semi auto fire for domestic sales, Wow, that makes all the difference lol. Clearly you aren't able to kill a lot of children with it now!
The only reason these become so high profile, as you put it, is because our media pushes any story like this 24/7 for weeks and weeks at a time. They do this to further their agenda of gun control... I live in the country and police response time is often 30 minutes or more. I will be responsible for protecting my family, hunting/fishing to provide food, and yes I enjoy shooting. I have that right guaranteed by the US Constitution...sorry you all gave up your freedom
The only reason they are so high profile is because people keep using them to mass murder children and the act of mass murdering kiddies tends to get a lot of attention. As it bloody well should do. The US constitution allows for gun bans. It doesn't allow for child killing. Here is a clue, get yourself a gentleman's weapon. Make it fashionable. Connect the fun of shooting to something different than, Rambo. The guy with the military guns who can mass kill when he is pissed off.
The only children IveI ever killed were wild piglets, and only because I had shot the sow. That's always been the MO of weak minded individuals is that because they are afraid of and ignorant of something, well then no one needs them. I'll set you a challenge, I go to Alaska for two weeks every year to keep my wilderness skills sharp. I only take what I can carry. Join me next year, we'll see if you can survive bear country without a semi-automatic rifle. We'll just call you bait, mate.
So school shootings bad (agreed), abortion Ok in your eyes...a lot more kids are killed through abortion than mass shootings. What guns are banned by the US Constitution? Some are heavily regulated, but not outright banned. I don't carry an AR15, I use an Ar10 in .308...if I ever have a 1500 lb grizzly charge me, I want that firepower. What do you consider a 'gentlemans weapon'? There is no Rambo, hesh an actor in a stupid movie...I'm a survivalist/hunter... I am also a realist that plans on retiring to Bear country.
There have been three school shootings where are AR-15 was used, for total of 36 deaths of students. In the last twenty years, 31,000 school age students have been killed in auto accidents. It's clear where the greater risk to children is.
And drug overuse. Thank the Mexican Cartels, Colombia and the CIA that do all that. Oh yeah. And the pharmaceutical companies and psychiatrists that prescribe Xanax and Oxy like it's candy.
A gentlemen's weapon is one that is not a Rambo gun. Doesn't do the military look. Plenty of guns are outright banned in the US. But you could petition for restrictions if you prefer. If you restricted AR's to non automatics, would you still want one? That is the restriction on them here. Kiddie murderers wouldn't. You can argue this until the cows come home. More AR's will be used in more school killings. And they will get banned because of this. America is out of control. Too many people know this is the way to get attention. Your society is very weak to this attack. More will exploit this weakness. And it won't end until you man up and address it. Sooner or later, you will man up. Just as Tommy Guns got banned when they got a bad name for themselves, so will AR's.
That's nice. Is there something you are suggesting will happen to those guns because of this? I don't see it myself. Here we banned handguns after the first school massacre they were used in. But there weren't many people who owned them at the time. It's not the same.
Pray tell, exactly what does being a so-called "gentleman" have to do with anything in this discussion? Then present a list of such firearms. The AR-15 is not an automatic. Off topic and irrelevant, emotional nonsense. The united state supreme court has all but said that such cannot be done. They have already stated that handguns cannot be prohibited simply because they are used for criminal purposes. There is no reason to believe the same precedent would not apply to commonly-available semi-automatic rifles. Then stay out of the united states and leave them to their own problems. The Thompson submachinegun is not banned. It is still perfectly legal to own one.
