Media nightmare: Black pro-Trump voters

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  1. MAGA

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    IOW, your claim was false.

    If a person says "banana" and you think that means "apple", he still said "banana".
     
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    NO, but he is doing a better job of being POTUS, which means giving them opportunities.
     
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    Yes, now Democrats use welfare to do more damage to the black family then they did with Jim Crow.

    Marinate that.
     
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    In the last 21 months of Obama's Presidency, the American economy added...4.47 million jobs

    In the first 21 months of Trump's Presidency, the American economy added...4.05 million jobs

    So unless you want to make the argument that the job creation under Obama was going to stop or become severely limited as soon as 2017 started, your reasons that Trump should get credit just do not make a great deal of sense.
     
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    Trump lies an average of 30 times a day.
     
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    Obama was great if you want to work part time flipping burgers and getting food stamps.

    Millions are off of food stamps, and have replaced it with work and dignity.

    Trump's 3.1% wage increase is higher than Obama ever had... Ever...

    Labor participation that hit historic lows under Obama are at historic highs under Trump.

    Minority employment is at historic highs

    All sectors of Americans are at or near the highest rate of employment are above any rate under Obama.

    And worse thing for Democrats: Satisfaction among Americans is at a 12 year high.
     
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    Deregulation, tax reform, and tax cuts.

    It was all in the news....
     
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    The only people having nightmares if blacks become pro-Trump supporters will be many Trump supporters
     
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    History really should be something you have to 'sell' to people, but I suppose there's a long history in this country of wanting to ignore history.

    I know you don't do evidence, but if you have a change of heart, there's a link in that post that shows the seats in the house changing over time and can track that along with policy. That republicans used to be the party of the north and big government is a historical fact, that democrats were once the strong states rights advocates is also a fact. I live in the south, I still remember southern democrats being a thing. The folks around here's policies positions have remained constant, the party they vote for has not.

    I suppose anecdotes are just meaningless to you as evidence though so I'm not entirely sure why I'm wasting my time...
     
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    Your opinion is noted.
    Thanks.
     
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    They have totally ignored black GOP candidates
     
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    Do russian trolls get paid very much these days?
     
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    And yet the only people to say that are Trump-haters.
     
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    People in general are not knowledgeable and easily fooled. Black's are people too !

    Cool that you posted various poll results. That the variance is from 7-36% should tell you that something is amiss.

    You do not reference your "4 million statistic" - and something seems wrong with the figure.

    https://www.newsweek.com/people-food-stamps-snap-decline-participation-640500

    So we can see that the number was already decreasing. This however is the total on food stamps - not just blacks.

    The article then goes on to talk about how at least part of the reason for this was due to States making the requirements stricter.
     
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    True, and it would be really bad if this was not the case. Blacks are only 13 percent of our population. Whites are much higher, in the majority, at least for now.

    The scheme of open borders and globalism will insure a growth in welfare, for whites. It is one of the costs of maxing out the profit of the top boys. Toss in the growing advancements of robotics and AI, and you have a perfect storm in the making.
     
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    The degree of new opportunities attributable to Trump is the subject that is highly debated. I do not debate that the economy is doing well. Some of this we can attribute to Trump.

    Increasing deficit spending pumped an extra 600 Billion into the economy in the first half of Trump's first fiscal year. This is an increase of 300 Billion dollars.

    I would hope that would do "something" !? Just as upping the limit on your credit cards - then maxing out those cards over a period of 6 months increases your household GDP - the same is true of deficit spending.

    Just as you would laugh at the household for claiming "LOOK how good we are doing" on the basis of this increase in household GDP - you should also laugh at people doing the exact same thing in relation to US GDP.

    Short term gain for long term pain.
     
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    I might have not been accurate or clear on my post. the 7-36% wasn't meant as a variance, it was the range in which it reportedly moved. From 7% from the presidential election to 36% now. I think the NAACP numbers are more likely closer as I don't see them as a Conservative fan and their numbers were 7% prior to 21% now.

    The 4 million statistic actually doesn't reflect Black voters only. (My fault) I guess I got a little ambitious in making my point as I am actually excited to see Black voters taking the initiative (as a whole) to make a change in their communities. Not that they are coming over to my way of thinking (conservative) but how they are working to improve the country and conditions surrounding the lower income segment of their population. (Blexit)

    Thanks for bringing that to my attention. Now that I look back at my post it sounds really skewed but it wasn't my intent.
     
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    Wait, so is Kanye not a crazy, illiterate negro now that he has changed his support? Interestingly no one on the RW has labeled him negatively at all, and no one on the RW made a great big deal of his WH meeting other than as backlash to racist leftists to begin with. He was a crazy negro to the LW just a couple weeks ago, the "someone gave him his meds" is transparent.

    The "only took a couple of weeks to figure it out" is a rank speculation on your part. He could have made a rational business decision that openly supporting Trump would be fiscally irresponsible for someone in a business that relies on revenues from young people. Far more likely.
     
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    On the same note - I do agree that many Blacks have become disenchanted with the Dems - and for good reason. That said - I do not think they are "enchanted" with the other side either. Then there is the issue of what the voting group thinks verses how someone will respond (many who will not vote) in relation to which policies they presently favor.

    I am really on the fence in relation to which side will prevail in the next few hours. What I do see is a rapidly increasing middle - the "anti Estabalishment" movement was big in the last election.

    Given the political climate since the last election I find it absurd to suggest that this movement has not grown bigger. It is this group who I think will tip the balance.

    The question is where the mindset of this group is at - and on that one I have no answer.
     
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    8 of the top 10 Welfare States are Red. Many of these also happen to be the lowest in educational attainment and highest in infant mortality.
    1. Mississippi, 42.9% federal aid as percentage of general revenue
    2. Louisiana, 41.9%
    3. Tennessee, 39.5%
    4. South Dakota, 39.0%
    5. Missouri, 38.2%
    6. Montana, 37.4%
    7. Georgia, 37.3%
    8. New Mexico, 36.6%
    9. Alabama, 36.1%
    10. Maine, 35.3%So
     
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    Nyet!........I mean, No!

    We're still trying for 15 rubels per hour.
     
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    g'luck
     
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    I think it's great that Democrats discovered the deficit. It's like Obama whining about the Bush deficit just before he doubled it.

    I get that American prosperity flies in the face of the Democrat Party platform, but you'll just have to live with it.
     
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    That is irrelevant to my statement.
     
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    Sure, you can look at it that way. But I'm thinking that saying a bipolar individual being back on their meds explains a lot. It isn't racist or critical - it is the truth. Much of the country watched his monologue in the Oval and wondered about his sanity. Not, specifically, because of his support of Trump - but because of the monologue itself. I haven't labelled him as a 'crazy', illiterate negro'. Those came from you...
     

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