FoxHastings said: ↑ Abortion affects your life in NO WAY.... Then why are you going on and on and on and on and on about it....?
FoxHastings said: ↑ NO, you have NOT said what you are going to do about it....I haven't seen any answer except you telling people what to do....and THAT'S no solution YOU telling people what to do is 100% effective! ?! I don't have to pretend...YOU telling people what to do isn't effective... I never thought, nor said, that at all...… YOU are the one who thinks women shouldn't have control of their own bodies..
Personal responsibility IS the solution. Say it quickly or slowly. Loudly or quietly. However you need to say it to lessen the pain of an inconvenient truth.
BEING personally responsible is 100% effective, yes. Do you doubt that no sex = no unwanted pregnancies? Because you seem to have difficulty accepting that reality. No, I'm the one saying women have COMPLETE control over their bodies. You are the one saying they can't control themselves, and worse, that men should have some say in what happens to them.
FoxHastings said: ↑ NO, you have NOT said what you are going to do about it....I haven't seen any answer except you telling people what to do....and THAT'S no solution Personal responsibility is the solution for what? You have NOT said what you are going to do about it....I haven't seen any answer except you telling people what to do....and THAT'S no solution
. Yet you don't want them to have abortions....you want them to have complete control over their bodies until they become pregnant then you want them forced to gestate. Yes, women have complete control of their bodies so if they want to have sex they have sex. Having sex is not losing control of one's body. , NO, I'm the one saying that women can do whatever they want without YOUR permission. Obviously something you don't like I have NEVER said that, it's just one more of your desperation "misrepresentations" of what I posted because you have no facts... ...and I'm getting quite bored with your "misinterpretations" of what I post because you have no facts on your side....so rant on...it won't change a thing
1) I'M the one saying that woman have absolute power (to say no, or whatever). YOU'RE the one saying they can't control themselves. 2) Having unprotected sex when you don't want a pregnancy, is indeed a loss of control. How you can say insist otherwise is a mystery. 3) No, you're saying woman can't control themselves. I'm saying they can. Which of us is the genuine champion of women? 4) Yes, you and Bower repeatedly asserted that men should have a say in the situation. I was the one saying it has nothing to do with men, since women have absolute dominion over their own bodies. There is zero misrepresentation here. You are failing (in your logic and reason) at a fundamental level.
Of which you have absolutely ZERO proof... No, it isn't...just because one chooses to have sex doesn't mean they lost control...WHY DO YOU INSIST THAT WOMEN WHO HAVE SEX ARE UNCONTROLLED SEX CRAZED WILD BEASTS? Another figment of a vivid and desperate imagination … YOU HAVE NO PROOF OF THAT EITHER WTF! ...Who TF needs to be "champion of women? Do you ride a big white horse and have a white hat? YOU are the one saying women have NO RIGHT TO THEIR OWN BODIES and should BE FORCED to GESTATE....should be punished for having sex.. AND LIKE YOUR OTHER ALLEGATIONS YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO PROOF OF THAT...……….because I never said it ..in fact, I have repeatedly said the opposite..….I SUGGEST YOU STOP HARRASSING ME WITH THE SAME "misrepresentation" You were the one who said women need to do what their partner says....he has a 'say"... I think you see your whole argument is built on air and desperately assign things to people they never said...…… That's OK, I'm used to Anti-Choicers having no real, or realistic, argument...
Such as being able to afford the monthly premiums necessary to actually maintain the insurance policy?
It was interesting. If one follows on from there to other links and additional information is would indicate that the following is incorrect:
Yup. Pro-life is all about controlling women. “Saving lives” is a bullshit euphemism. I’m impressed you stated it outright. Most Lifers don’t have that kind of honesty or courage.
Whaler17 said: ↑ Yeah and the overwhelming majority of women having abortions are black. The whole push for legalized abortion was a racist initiative.The founder of planned parenthood admitted it years ago. You'll never see it... first, it's just plain asinine to think that legalizing abortion was racist and SECOND, Sanger wasn't a racist.
It's interesting to think about... What if we lived in a society that was so impoverished that women were killing their newborns? And life was just so awful and miserable that no one had the fortitude to stand up to it, because it was the less awful of two choices? If we can get to the point where killing is okay inside the womb, justified by poverty, well, then I don't think it's that big of a stretch to imagine with a little more poverty we could be justifying killing outside of the womb. Are we so desperate that we are already having to resort to killing our own inside the womb? I know the economic situation may not be all sunshine... but certainly things have to be better than Mexico. Surely we can't really be that desperate that we're having to terminate human life in the womb out of necessity.
Has happened throughout history though usually the child is left somewhere. It is why abortifacients have been used throughout history. But WHY. Would women wait until the child is born to kill it?
For many the costs of reliable contraception is out of reach unless they can access it through providers like Planned Parenthood - you know the people the so called pro lifer would love to shut down
And what reason is that?? Please inform us as to why women would wait 16 weeks for an abortion. I KNOW the reasons but i am wondering if you do and are willing to post same
So what if they are? I think you're lucky that irresponsibility is not against the law...It's people are protected from control freak nutjobs forcing their ideas of what is or isn't "responsible" onto others and delighting in punishing them when they don't conform.....
