Judge in Flynn case orders Mueller to turn over interview docs after bombshell claim of FBI pressure

Flynn chose to make false statements about the Russian Ambassador weeks before the FBI interview. Flynn was the head of the Defense intelligence agency and Knew better about lying to the FBI. Felony-Don loves his liars

 

you mean his compliance was found to be incomplete due to ...????

And that adjudication is not up to you. Its up to the judge who issued the order. Good thing for trumpland judges don't work over the weekend, so make as much hay as you can while the sun ain't shinin'.

 

Please don't disperse the clouds with matter of facts. It gets the trumpians in a tizzy of contortions and vitriolic insistence on nefarious intent on the part of the good guys and butt hurt innocence on the part of the crooks. Remember in trumpland you take the elevator down to the penthouse and up to the garage.

 

If Mueller knows better, absent a justifiable explanation, his failure to deliver the mandatory 302 from Flynn's interview is unquestionably contempt of court, quite inappropriate for a Special Prosecutor.

 

No Flynn is just more proof that the military leadership is just as corrupt as the rest of our government. Time to stop pretending that there is something sacred about our military brass . If you didn't learn that from the Vietnam war there is probably no hope for your education.

 

who wants to bet the information the court ordered will suddenly turn up missing

 

Unquestionably? Sure thing. Keep trying to pin the tail on that donkey.

The notion of an administrative error never crossed your mind? Ever put a document in the wrong file before? Considering the raft of documentation submitted, I tend to consider process errors before leaping to conviction for nefarious non compliance. But hey, that is just me being a reasonable fair human being.

 

Well, lets see how this all shakes out

Everything i have heard is that mueller is a guy of great rectitude.

Also, trump himself fired flynn for lying

Also, the gov is asking for no time sentence for flynn. It will be hard to impove that deal

Finally, flynn has already testified extensively to the mueller team... he could of course Maintain that his testimony was lies....though it is hard to see how that improves his sutuation

 

Well is Flynn's defense is stupidity he might just have a case althoughI doubt it will carry much weight in the courts.

 

We aren't interested in Dirty Bob's opinion, Dirty Bob didn't conduct the interview, two FBI agents did, and within 5 days they each filed 302's, the only contemporaneous record the FBI has about what Flynn said in the interview. The Judge gave Dirty Bob a DIRECT ORDER to produce this information and Dirty Bob in open defiance has refused to produce them.

There is no doubt that Flynn, speaking from memory about past phone conversations gave information to agents, in what he thought was an informal, friendly and even jockular interaction between colleges, Flynn was on his third day on the job for the incoming Administration, speaking to two FBI agents, one of which was very high on the FBI org chart, that conflicted with the clandestine transcripts the agents were in possession of. But, in order to be guilty of lying , the omissions and/or misstatements must be intentional.

So the question is whether Flynn intentionally provided false information.

On that question, the interviewing agents judged that he did not lie to them. This conclusion is outlined in the House Intelligence Committee’s report on Russia’s interference in the 2016 election. Both Comey and McCabe testified to this effect. That is why Flynn was not charged with false statements until after Dirty Bob Mueller was appointed in May 2017 that the investigation of Flynn appears to have picked up steam and a false-statements plea was finally negotiated in late November.

There are many peculiarities about this. Pressing at the moment, for example, is the special counsel’s release yesterday of the FBI report (the “302” form) pertaining to Flynn’s interview. Even though Flynn was interviewed on January 24, 2017, the 302 in the submission was not completed until August 22, 2017, seven months later and is not in regards to Flynn's interview, rather is an interview of Peter Strzok about an unrelated matter. Missing from Dirty Bob's submission are the initial interview reports when the agents formed their initial impressions, that were due within 5 days of the interview, not this tangentially related interview of Dirty Peter Strzok shortly before he was fired for misconduct, months later when the special counsel was squeezing Flynn and there was a motive to make the interview appear more deceptive than it seemed at the time.

Even more disturbing it appears that there is no 302 of the Flynn interview, at all!. The 302 dated August 22, 2017, which Mueller submitted to the court, documents an interview of Peter Strzok, not of Flynn. It appears that this interview of Strzok took place on July 19, notes of the interview were drafted the next day (July 20), and the 302 was approved and entered into the FBI’s files on August 22. The question obviously arises: Where is the Flynn 302? FBI procedures would have called for a report within a few days of the interview, it is not that there wasn’t one for seven months, for now, it looks like none has been produced at all!

 

KEEP GRINDING THAT AXE. Amazing that you jump all over this imputing all kinds of nefarious to it, when it could just be a simple process error. Course the fact that the judge has yet to make any determination is the opening you require to pour more unsubstantiated bullshit into the mix as if the real criminals are the people whose job it is to investigate and apprehend them.

Maybe you should put it back in your pants and await the judge's ruling on compliance of the order.

nah, you won't do that. This is too good a drum to beat to rally the tribe to the injustice of all the attacks on your dear leader - lyin' cheatin' crooked donnie.

When he pledged to drain the swamp, who knew he meant to replace it with a cesspool.

 

Your defense is that Mueller isn't crooked, just sloppy? The unfortunate thing for Flynn is that if this guilty plea is vacated it probably puts him and his family again in the cross hairs of Dirty Bob and his crooked witch hunt. Vacating the plea will only expose Flynn to more destruction by these unhinged unethical prosecutors. I suspect that Flynn will beg the Judge to let his guilty plea stand.

So leaving Flynn's guilty plea in place protects Flynn from further abuse from Dirty Bob and the Judge can still unload on Dirty Bob's unethical and unprofessional practices.

 

The contrast between the management and execution between Flynn's investigation and Clinton's is astounding. Flynn has rights too, no matter your ignorance of the law and due process.

 

Would you believe it? Further evidence how crooked and incompetent Mueller and his team are.


https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/dec/13/strzok-page-messages-mueller-probe-lost-phone/

Investigators weren’t able to find any text messages between fired agent Peter Strzok and former bureau lawyer Lisa Page from their time on special counsel Robert Mueller’s probe because by the time their phones were recovered, they’d been reset for others’ use, an inspector general said Thursday

 

My own opinion is this is not as deep as it gets. Dig deeper and find flaws all over his investigation. Too many working at the FBI wanted Trump and did not care how it got done.

 

Of course, the fact that the plea is perfectly legit and meuller has demonstrated rather impressive competence naturally implies a vast conspiracy of evil doing department of justice.

Why its as plain as the nose on your face.

Poor guy. Since we both know all of the times you've screamed bloody blue murder of the crimes committed by evil butt hurt leftist socialists that has turned out to be nothing more than partisan bloviating bullshit, your howling at the moon is becoming rather tiresome - which I think might be one of your objectives.

 

Goo

i agree it’s up to the judge. Just highlighting the missing documents

 

Certainly, that's why I wrote "if Mueller knows better", what I mean is that if the omission of Flynn's 302 was intentional, this is unquestionably contempt since the court specifically requested said report. Mueller is a busy man and has huge investigation to run with lots of agents and lawyers, he probably had some of them respond to this judicial request, they could have messed up, missed the 302, couldn'tfind it, included Strzok's by mistake, but this is a very important case, Mueller's first charge, his highest ranking one, and he is personally requested to answer by the court, I'm certain Mueller himself reviewed the responsive documents.

Mueller can easily fix this by quickly amending his submission to include Flynn's 302, give a good excuse for not including it before and no contempt shown.

Why wasn't Flynn's 302 included?

 

Beats the hell out of me. I just figger that there isn't ANY advantage to Meuller to deliberately attempt to circumvent fulfilling the judges order.

He isn't stupid and he know's whatever he submits is going to be pored over by both sides and the entire legal community. So here are the conspiratorialists accusations of contempt.

So you'l have to forgive me if I think this is yet another example of premature adjudication by trump defenders in a desperate attempt to claim the corruption lies with the prosecution and not with the criminals. Seems discredit is the only real public weapon they have.

 

Because all the documents were made public. Duh.

 

Yeah, but apparently that is business as usual in the whitehouse... if you are not under oath, lying is near mandatory.... if you are asked to be under oath, it is a perjury trap

 

They had discovery long ago in his case. It was in there of course since it was required to prove he lied.

Yep. A bombshell.

 

Thanks for all that research you no doubt did in order to answer my rhetorical question, to which I then supplied the answer.

 

I suspect there is no 302 for Flynn's interview, it was probably drafted, Flynn testified this was done by agent Prietka (who accompanied Strzok in the interview), but likely destroyed by McCabe as the agents probably indicated they found Flynn's statements credible (Strzok did indicate he did not believe Flynn had lied to them).

The 302 of Strzok's interview (7 months later) was prepared 4 days after the FBI fired his mistress for those texts, they didn't fire Strzok (whose texts were just as bad -if not worse) because they had to interview him so they could memorialize the details of Strzok's interview of Flynn since the original 302 was destroyed. This is why they fired Strzok later.

And now there's more:

 

Strzok indicated that Flynn's "body language" did not indicate that he was lying......not that Strzok did not think he was not lying. They had the transcripts of the call with Kislyack with them and the rephrased the questions many times that Flynn lied about verbatim to the transcript......that's context and it's not even subtle......you are simply mis informed & regurgitating fakes news. Sorry.