Stone on his indictment: This is about silencing me, criminalizing political expression

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  1. ibobbrob

    ibobbrob Well-Known Member

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    You can't ruin a squirrel like Stone, and he is a personal friend of Trump, and there was evidence that he was involved somehow in
    nefarious activities.
     
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    He claims to be broke from lawyer fees, Seems Mueller makes sure to ruin these people financially. Even if found innocent their lives are screwed. So what kind of nefarious activities? Being Trump's friend? I would think for all this hate there would be something more precise.
     
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    He is not being accused of being trump's friend. He is going to jail if convicted. He was released on $250,000 bail.
     
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    Nope, not in this context. If you charge one dollar or a thousand dollars, your still a whore if you charge. Your rationalization changes nothing.....
     
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    I believe that as well.
    But it's the most apples to apples comparison I could think of that highlights the change in thought process. So I am obligated to give Obama the same consideration?
     
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    I believe that the same applies to Obama. He was honorable and believed that he could make things happen. Trump is another story.
     
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    Trump will go down as one of the best presidents we ever had along with Truman and Reagan. Obama will go down as one of the worst presidents we ever had along with Carter.
     
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    Not a chance. Trump and Carter will be remembered as horrible presidents but for very different reasons.
    Reagan is luck that there was no internet back then. Yeah, a good president but how many people remember him withholding the contra paperwork after the supreme court ordered him to release them. Not too many would be my experience. How many people have forgotten about Hillary bashing them cell phones not too many in my experience. Two people did the exact same thing one the right calls a hero the other the right calls a criminal. And I'm sure you can find the same on the left.
     
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    You mean you simply don't understand it.
     
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    No, you mean that. You neeeeeeeeed to believe that. Bit it's just not the case.
     
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    I'm sure.
     
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    You aren't looking forward to discovery?

    "I think the Mueller investigation is really at the bottom of the barrel when they're looking at people like this because we already found in our report that Roger Stone wasn't colluding with the Russians, which, that was the original intent of all this, remember?" Nunes, the top Republican on the House Intelligence Committee, told Fox News host Maria Bartiromo.

    "Supposedly Trump campaign operatives, so-called, were colluding with Russians," Nunes added. "They must be embarrassed that they actually have to come to House Republicans in order to have us give them the information, the transcripts so that they go and get Roger Stone on a process foul that occurred in 2017 that Roger Stone himself is going to fight. The process of discovery is going to be fascinating in this case and I can't wait to watch it."

    https://pjmedia.com/video/nunes-the...-going-to-be-fascinating-in-roger-stone-case/
     
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    But investigations and trials are about facts and evidence.

    The Trump-Russia conspiracy did not exist.

    This should not be controversial. It should not matter whether you like Donald Trump. It is simply a matter of reading the special counsel’s indictments, of seeing through their ambitious storytelling and grappling with what they actually charge.

    It is very simple. If the Trump campaign had been in an espionage conspiracy with Russia to hack Democratic email accounts, why would the campaign have needed Stone to try to figure out what stolen information WikiLeaks had and when it would release that information?

    Mind you, it appears that Stone did not know, either. The indictment suggests he was expecting a lollapalooza of a Clinton Foundation exposé that never materialized. Mueller does not make the claim, suggested widely in the media, that Stone had foreknowledge that Podesta’s emails would be disclosed. And, to repeat, Stone is not charged with being in a conspiracy with WikiLeaks.

    https://thehill.com/opinion/white-h...here-was-no-trump-russia#.XE817sTg9OU.twitter

    You seem to love ridiculous fables.
     
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    I'm sure when you get a little older you'll understand.
     
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    The FBI should have roughed up Stone, because he may have been apart of the Wikileaks leak, that helped expose corruption in the DNC?
     
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    THE NEW REPUBLIC ON RUSSIA HYSTERIA: Maria Butina: The Spy Who Wasn’t.

    “The government’s case against Butina is extremely flimsy and appears to have been driven largely by a desire for publicity. In fact, federal prosecutors were forced to retract the most attention-grabbing allegation in the case—that Butina used sex to gain access and influence. That Butina’s prosecution was launched by the National Security Section of the District of Columbia federal prosecutor’s office, led by Gregg Maisel, is telling in itself: According to a source close to the Mueller investigation, the special counsel’s office had declined to pursue the case, even though it would have clearly fit under its mandate. Despite the lack of evidence against Butina, however, prosecutors—abetted by an uncritical media willing to buy into the idea of a Russian agent infiltrating conservative political circles—were intent on getting a win.
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