Stone on his indictment: This is about silencing me, criminalizing political expression

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  1. Texas Republican

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    I'm observant and I can connect the dots.

    Only pollyannas that think government is good can't see the obvious.
     
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    Texas Republican Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I also want him to complete his term. Then I want him to fade away.
     
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    I don't pretend to be privy to the Trump Justice Department's Republican Special Counsel's information, nor do I speculate as to its relevance.
     
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    Stone had better keep his large oral cavity closed, lest it gets in the way of his brains.
     
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    You should, the indictment is on line you can read it and inform yourself
     
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    I'm happy to watch him fading away, and hope he hangs on until 2020.
     
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    The great thing about the Stone arrest is that it proves the Trump campaign did not know wikileaks had stolen DNC emails or when they would be released and did not know what other information they had on the Clinton campaign..

    So far the Mueller investigation has come up with only process crimes, that is crimes created by the investigators who ignore the far greater crimes by Brennan, Clapper, Hillary, and the Obama FBI/CIA gang who all got get out of jail free cards. The Mueller investigation stared with Hillary's opposition unverified dossier and that is still all they have.

    One of the charges against Stone is that he did not divulge (forgot) the texts to Congress on an unused old cell phone that had exculpatory evidence on it.
     
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    Some, with the little they are able to glean, like to appoint themselves judge, jury, and exonerator.

    The Trump Justice Department's Republican Special Counsel obviously recognizes that is not his role.
     
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    Ok...what does that have to do with reading the indictment?
     
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    You are free to spin it however it gives you pleasure, and to brood upon whatever diversions you enjoy.

    Trump could certainly use a pick-me-up, and if Roger-Over-and-Out's being roused for an outing in his jammies afforded him a modicum of joy, he should seize upon it, surely.
     
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    An indictment is only an indictment, essentially a legal accusation based upon evidence. Stone was indicted for obstruction, making false statements, and witness tampering. The prosecution and the defense will discuss the merits of the indictments in court - appropriately, at some length. Partisan, knee-jerk judgments are meaningless.

    Some will idly speculate, of course.
     
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    It’s the charging document...read it, it outlines Mueller’s evidence. As I said it clearly states that Stone lies about wanting to know what Wikileaks had because he obviously didn’t know..because he wasn’t colluding with them
     
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    How can facts be spin? Oh yeah, head in the sand TDS sufferers cannot see the forest for the trees.
     
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    Spinmeisters pretend to their "facts" all the time.
     
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    Of course you cannot counter what you call spin so...
     
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    Nothing is to prevent you from concluding whatever you wish.

    I support Mr Stone's right to contest the charges against him in the proper venue, and the duty of the prosecution to rebut them.
     
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    I don’t know if Mueller is right...I’m just telling you want he said. Maybe Stone is innocent of the accusations mueller outlines in his indictment.
     
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    Since I do not presume to adjudicate the charges against Stone, I have nothing to spin.

    That is the presumption of those who attempt to convict of exonerate him without due process.
     
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    More nonsense as usual. I made one claim about one charge and that none of the charges basically have anything to do with collusion but are process crimes created by and during the investigation. Those are facts.
     
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    It is entirely possible that Stone is as blameless as Caesar's wife, as fresh as the newly fallen snow, and as unsullied as an ugly vestal virgin.

    I leave that to our cracking system of jurisprudence to ascertain.

    Presumably, Roger can afford to retain the slickest of defense attorneys (although I would presume to suggest he avoid Giuliani like a broken elevator after an industrial-strength bean-eating contest.)
     
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    Apparently he already has one...
     
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    Facts are facts. Crimes are crimes. To be determined.
     
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    Witch Hunt! Complete with Show Raid coordinated between Dirty Bob Mueller, the Corrupt FBI and Fake News CNN.

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    PRESIDENT TRUMP IS RIGHT! Internet Sleuth Uncovers Multiple Lies by Mueller Mobster Lisa Page – Why Is Only Roger Stone’s Home Raided for Lying to Congress?
     
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    Lol, yeah that does seem to be witness intimidation 101...

    No way he faces Cohen time, but he's gotta get more than the 14 days Coffee Boy got.. put me down for 16-20 months...

    I just get angry at his proclamations that he'll never flip on Trump because he'd be committing perjury to do so...

    Nobody wants anybody to lie about the actions of others to get charges... tell the truth (there is only 1 truth after all) and see where the chips fall...
     
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    Again today on ABC Tv they acted like Stone committed a crime. It is like a cult hates any person that even ever talked to Trump even in a non government environment. They hate him so much, say Trump in the same sentence and no matter who it is over, it generates hate for one human. Monday they plan to insert another new name. Stone is not a perfect person. But to try to prosecute him for any small and honest error is turning this nation into a nation of haters.(Good Morning America announced it)

    Notice how quickly Lois Lerner escaped Justice. Holder never got justice. He slipped through the cracks. But Democrats insist every topic, every conversation is a crime. We did not do that to Lerner nor Holder. Holder should still be under a contempt of congress citation. Somebody should have finished that prior to attacking Trump. I think all along Democrats planned to get so vicious and change the attack we would forget Lerner and Holder as though they were only smoke and mirrors.
     
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