Virginia Governor Defends Letting Infants Die

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  1. Mac-7

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    Ok

    Its the new norm of two Americas

    Yours and mine

    If you want to see where the left is headed check out their mentors in red china

    Where people are killed for their organs

    But here our two worls could overlap since I am linking you a respected loony left media source - CNN

    https://www.cnn.com/2016/06/23/asia/china-organ-harvesting/index.html

    CNN)A new report claims that China is still engaged in the widespread and systematic harvesting of organs from prisoners, and says that people whose views conflict with the ruling Chinese Communist Party are being murdered for their organs.

    The report -- by former Canadian lawmaker David Kilgour, human rights lawyer David Matas, and journalist Ethan Gutmann -- collates publicly reported figures from hospitals across China to show what they claim is a massive discrepancy between official figures for the number of transplants carried out throughout the country.


    They blame the Chinese government, the Communist Party, the health system, doctors and hospitals for being complicit.
     
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  2. LangleyMan

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    Women are denied access to contraceptives and abortion by men. Look for penis-bearers as the problem.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I realize that - this is not even close to "All Democrats"
     
  4. LangleyMan

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    Now you associate me with China. Stupid, stupid, stupid,..

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    individuals within the party may not always agree on every issue

    But the leaders democrats elect to office do represent all democrats
     
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    Why limit survival to those who have a good chance to reach adulthood?
    How about guarantees starting in the third trimester? Only one-third of 23-week babies make it.
    Why is this the responsibility of pro-choicers?
     
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    Hi Moi,
    It looks like you’re Canadian, but you’ve almost exactly described the system we have in the UK, both in terms of abortion and adoption. It works pretty well, there is plenty of time for an abortion if necessary, but balances the rights of the mother and those of the viable foetus. I agree with you that it’s common sense and it is not bogged down with religious dogma or gender politics. I cannot see any justification for terminating a pregnancy at 40 weeks or more, let alone birth
     
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    I am not :flagcanada: :angered:

    @SamuraiSam YOU are :flagcanada:
     
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    Apologies! I thought that was a Canadian flag. No offence meant! Beautiful country Canada
     
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    I had hoped that you might focus on the substance, though
     
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    It is hardly substance when you
    call me :flagcanada:


    Moi :oldman:
    :flagus: born



    No Canada-1.jpg
    Across an immense, unguarded, ethereal border, Canadians, cool and unsympathetic,
    regard our America with envious eyes and slowly and surely draw their plans against us.
     
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    Much of what you say is true but we've also had instances of a women boasting about the number of abortions she's had. What I'm arguing against is the lack of thought given to the taking of a human life, either by using euphemisms, or phrases like 'putting it out of its suffering', or wild claims that there is no one to care for these babies.

    I'm against abortion but, like you, realize there are many circumstances where it may be necessary though, honestly, I could never think of those circumstances were I a woman. Many women hold the same belief. It is the taking of human life and all the excuses or euphemisms can never disguise that fact.
     
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    No, the conditions you described were not in this bill.
     
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    That's often the case, yes, but is not a factor in this bill.
    In North America, yes, and that is good news. Maybe that's due also to an aging population. Crime is also dropping so perhaps that's the common factor.
    That's true but the first trimester is not under discussion. It's the third trimester, and after the baby is born, which is the central problem for many of us.

    Enjoyed your early example of documented evidence of violence against men! )
     
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    Nice rationalizing, millions of babies aborted and they were all destined to be Igor. Just liibs thinking they are God and they need to decide who should live or die.
     
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    You don't even know what you posted. When you post garbage it must get jumbled. Here is your post.
    LangleyMan said:
    Oh, please--let's start with decent sex education in schools, like they have in other countries, and we'll have fewer unwanted pregnancies.
     
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    As I said, I don't know what was in the bill.
    The rate isn't dropping as fast as the total.
    Canada has no abortion law. There, a healthy woman with a healthy fetus can't get an abortion because doctors won't perform them in such cases as a matter of medical ethics.

    Hospitals and doctors are letting fatally flawed children slip away rather than keep them alive for a few agonizing days. We shouldn't interfere with that process.
     
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    I was talking about what we can have in this country. Apparently, I didn't get through last time...

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    We disagree in some areas which will never be resolved and don't want to get involved in yet another abortion debate. Cheers.
     
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    Another asinine statement on your part. We are discussing late term babies that pose health risk to the mother or are not viable.
    You can pull crap statements from your arse all night - doesn't make them relevant.
     
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    [to @BahamaBob] I said I didn't read the bill, so I can't support it. Hospitals that don't perform abortions let compromised infants slip away. The Christian nursing care home my father stayed in for four years let elderly patients slip away, too. There's nothing illegal or immoral about that.

    Early-term abortion is not something you can stop. Modern technology defeats you.
     
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    Why don't you own up to it. Killing babies is fine with you. It servers your democrat masters.
     
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    The doctors in canada are principled, noble people, apparently. I guess they took the Hypocratic Oath seriously?

    By saying, "slip away" you mean their lives are ended intentionally by the doctor? Instead of being born and then living for a few days, in agony? I appreciate your thoughtful choice of words! ha ha

    I would say it more bluntly, of course. And in a way that is closer to the harsh reality of killing a human being as it is old enough to be birthed. I would say that if you didn't want a handicapped child, tell your doctor to kill that little bastard before he hits the atmosphere and takes his first life sustaining breath of air.

    I would also say we might as well throw modern medical tech, medical imaging in the trash cans, so we cannot determine the health and condition much earlier in development. That way everyone can be surprised when right before birth, we discover something is wrong with this human being. And who wants that kind of inconvenience?

    I am not against legal abortion but I do believe lines have to be drawn, given what is taking place in an abortion. The killing of a human life. Life should be valued more than that, for when basic value goes, society loses value for other human lives. Might as well be a natural law given the certainty of it.
     

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