Trump to declare National emergency for Wall

Yeah, he had the Democrat General Kelly who use to be in Charge of Southern Command. Who validated the problem with the border and what was taking place in our backyard.

Of course most leftists didn't even know. Must have been a commercial with the 30 second soundbite.

 

Only two of them involved usurping he ability to approporiate funds from Congress.

And in both cases, the Congressional leaderhship was read into the action, was in accord, and subesquently made the appropriations.

Trump has no case at all.

He made little effort to hide the fact that this Emergency declaration is nothing more than a gimming for the Fox Noise viewers, and that he fully expects it to be tied up in court for the remainder of his Presidency.

This is, of course, yet another shiny object for him to point to as he sells the idea that democracy is bad for his knuckle dragging base.

And, of course, leveraging his corruption and dishonesty by making a show of making a direct assault on the Constitution, does several other things Trump likes (being first ,last, and only, a television celebrity).

It distracts the right trash audience from the fact that Trump suffered the most epic presidential defeat since Clinton bested Ginggrich over his first contrived government shutdown in 1995.

It also obscures the fact that not one inch of wall will be built that hadn't already been funded before this idiotic battle.

Trump put a million people out of work for a month, and is not contriving not to pay them. Of course, this is the same man who had people cowering in bomb shelters as he lowered himself to Kim Jung Un's level by engaging in an adolescent war of words with a dictator everyone else ignored.

It leads them to believe that he is still fighting a battle for a wall. He isn't. It will be in the courts shortly. But we can predict several things based on past behavior.

Trump will attack every judge in public. He will bluster about building a wall at every opportunity. And he will either lose or run the clock out.

Either of which serves him. His audience isn't smart or well informed enough to understand they're being conned. Indeed, he makes no bones about conning them either. Running the clock out serves him, because he can continue to declare imaginary victory while accomplishing nothing, and avoiding responsibility for any outcome.

Avoiding responsibility and taking credit for things that either didn't happen or were done by someone else, are both core Trump behaviors

All he cares about is how he looks on cable television. He does not care about being President. He cares about whether his trailer park base will continue to worship at his cult of personality, so he serves them up the steady diet of slogans, memes, petty name calling, and false memes that right wingers fall for reliable over and over again.

Trump knows that he can bellow vague declarations about doing away with regulations ,adn the MAGA hat crowd will believe him. Tehy won't check to see if he lied. Tehy embrace and defend the lie.

So, Trump declared a national emergency to fight an imaginary invasion created exclusively on tv by Fox News. No wall will be built because of his declaration. Indeed nothing will happen.

But he distracted the base from noticing that he spent the last six months failing in Congress.

Trump will accomplish nothing. He base won't care.

 

No clue what you are ranting about.

More slander by you directed at the majority of The Electorate.

More slander.

I predict that you will engage in more slander of your fellow Americans who hold views that differ from your own.

This endless double checking you pride yourself in, does it include spell checking?

 

e·mer·gen·cy
Dictionary result for emergency
/əˈmərjənsē/
noun

1. a serious, unexpected, and often dangerous situation requiring immediate action.
   "your quick response in an emergency could be a lifesaver"
   synonyms: crisis, urgent situation, extremity, exigency; More
   
   
   • arising from or needed or used in an emergency.
     modifier noun: emergency
     "an emergency exit"
     synonyms: urgent, crisis; More
     
     
   • a person with a medical condition requiring immediate treatment.

Donald Trump: "I could do the wall over a longer period of time. I didn't need to do this"

The entire world knows that the declaration of emergency was a political card. You'd need to be completely unable to be objective not to see it (in the nicest case).

 

Because there is a serious, unexpected, and dangerous situation requiring immediate action, on the Southwest Border, the President elected to declare a National Emergency.

He is given this power because of the realities and politics involved in addressing such serious, unexpected, and dangerous situations through Congress alone.

 

I hope you're only being disingenuous for debate purposes and dont really believe that crap. Either way, its tedious having a discussion with you. You can have the final word, I wont respond.

 

And I was hoping you had put me on ignore, as threatened.

But then I guess you couldn't help yourself...….

 

Just checked today to see what the list of challenges are to this unsupportable action. Not sure who would be judged to have the standing to get their suits heard, but certainly many of these groups do

- ACLU will be suing
- Public Citizen - "bar Trump and the U.S. Department of Defense from using the declaration and funds appropriated for other purposes to build a border wall."
- House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and several Democratic state attorneys general already have said they might go to court.
- California Gov. Gavin Newsom
- Jerry Nadler also announced that his committee will be investigating Mr. Trump's reasoning for calling the national emergency.
- The House and Senate can revoke a declaration by majority vote, but it would take a two-thirds vote by each house to override an expected presidential veto. (at least we'll get everybody on the official record)

The good thing about Trump's rampant stupidity is that it keeps a massive amount of lawyers employed and working hard... Make America Greedy Again...

 

What a shitshow. Trump has to be the dumbest president we've elected. He's playing tic tac toe while everyone around him plays chess.

 

Tic Tac Toe actually involves a minor bit of logic... I'd go with War.... all you have to know is which number is higher.. I'll give him that skill set, even when it comes to face cards... He did run some casinos (into the ground) after all.

 

Trump is winning, and its making liberal heads explode. They can't stop him.

 

Perhaps Donald Trump once believed that--or, at least, was hopeful--but it now seems unlikely to come to pass (if it ever was likely)...

 

You want a "rule of law charade"? You need look no further than the way that FBI Director Comey completely threw "rule of law" out the window while dealing with Hillary breaking numerous laws pertaining directly to national security and classified information.

 

The desert has no sand.

The ocean has no water.

Trump is winning.

^3 Equally Ridiculous Statements.

 

Even before he left office I said that Obama's greatest legacy would be his contempt for the rule of law.

I suffer no illusions about this - the rule of law is a dead note in this country. You know it's over when a Supreme Court justice says the language in our laws doesn't mean anything anymore.

 

Unfortunately, you are spot-on correct! A perfect example "for the Ages" of the utter disregard that even the Supreme Court has had for the letter of the LAW -- as passed by Congress and signed into law by a president -- was clearly shown when Chief Justice Roberts took it upon himself to reconstrue Obamacare as simply being a "tax" instead of a "mandate" (in order to give Obamacare a resemblance to something that would border on being constitutional)....

 

that was 'semantics' by the chief justice as taxes are mandates.

 

Really?

Donald Trump just suffered the biggest legislative defeat since Hillarycare failed in 1993. This time last year, he was thumbing his nose at an offer of $25 billion in return for DACA. The he thumbed his nose at $1.65 billion and put a million people out of work (and is now contriving not to pay them their owed wages), before his own party deserted him and handed him a spending bills with no wall, and less money than he was offered the day he lost the battle (Dec 11th).

Now, he puts on a clown show of an emergency announcement. Barely mentions it. Directly undermines the very idea that there actually is an emergency on live television, and lies his way from beginning to end. It was like watching a professional wrestler beat his chest for the mob.

If that's your idea of winning, your extremely low standards are frightening.

 

But in the case of Obamacare, the "tax" was inflicted as a PENALTY... big difference from being a 'garden-variety' tax. The whole thing should have been declared unconstitutional on its face by the Supreme Court, but, unfortunately, it wasn't.

"The health care reform legislation that became law in 2010 - known officially as the Affordable Care Act and also as Obamacare - requires most Americans to have a basic level of health insurance coverage. This requirement is commonly referred to as the law's "individual mandate." The law imposes a tax penalty through 2018 on those who fail to have the required coverage."

Link: https://turbotax.intuit.com/tax-tip...dual-mandate-for-health-care-reform/L51gBOz8v

 

in a free country all taxes are penalties because they take the product of one's labor

America is a free country for all intents and purposes

 

Most of us are just relieved that so many of you consider his total failure as a leader "winning." Every time he gets defeated, you all stand up and attest to his (fabled) success. It's actually working out nicely - he's failing miserably, America is surviving, and most of us are laughing at him (and his supporters). If you still think the media is simply out to get him, just wait until he's out of office. The nation will breathe a collective sigh of relief and then you'll find a huge majority of the country just letting loose on this fool.

 

I don't see it as Trump loss because he did get money authorized
for the fencing.

He should have been able to allocate the funding as border security
Administration proposed. As far as the Federal Government confiscating private property under Eminent Domain, I have always had a problem with this law. We list .25 acres for the County to pave and expand the road running through our rural nieghborhood.
It was in Texas. We were not paid or offered any compensation.
The Homeowners didn't sue because our roads were improved and the County was responsible for the up keep of the roads.

 

PERFECT example, Pollycy.

That was easily one of the worst miscarriages of justice and outright violations of the Constitution within the judiciary in American history. To add insult to injury, after Senator-for-Life Roberts failed to do his job and uphold the Constitution instead of legislating from the bench and engaging in what the four dissenting justices described as "judicial tax writing" (unconstitutional or multiple counts) he had the unmitigated gall to lecture the American people about our responsibilities. I could have slapped that piece of sh*t upside the head. As I recall, he ignored the letter of the law in a second FullRetardCare case that elicited the response from Justice Scalia about the language in our laws not meaning anything anymore.

I don't think a lot of people fully realize the profoundly disturbing and dangerous implications of this. With a stroke of the pen America was fundamentally transformed from a constitutional republic to a banana republic governed by the arbitrary caprices of government officials. As far as I'm concerned, Trump could have resigned after he killed the individual mandate and I would have considered his presidency a success. The economic stuff is great but after he leaves office I'll probably still consider that his greatest and most beneficial accomplishment.

 

Here was the big unconstitutional problem with Obamacare as passed by the liberal Democrat Congress and signed by their liberal Democrat president -- it penalized a citizen for NOT buying something.

Now do you see why Obamacare could not (NOT) stand a test of constitutionality in the Supreme Court? Any first-year law student could tell you that it is flat-out unconstitutional in OUR country to force someone to buy something merely because you are a citizen here, and, you are ALIVE.

Liberal commentators come back with arguments like, "Well, you are forced by law to buy insurance when own and drive a car!" Yes, that's true -- but no citizen is FORCED BY LAW to buy and drive a car! Again, do you see the difference? As a free American citizen, you never have to buy or drive a car during your entire life... and, you cannot be forced into buying any kind of 'insurance', either.

The other argument you hear from libs a lot is, "Well, you have to pay income tax, and you have to pay FICA taxes for Social Security and Medicare!" Yes, if you work legally, you must pay those taxes. Also, where it is required, you must pay literally dozens of other kinds of taxes, including sales taxes, property taxes, etc. But, the key is that you can only be taxed for what you willingly want to participate in, or want to buy! If you buy nothing, you won't pay 'sales taxes', or 'property taxes'. See the difference?

We will never know why Chief Justice Roberts took a written, adopted, and signed LAW and changed it all by himself. His very act of doing this was, itself, wholly unconstitutional. Nothing like what he did had ever been done successfully before, and we can only hope that it is never done again.

If "We, the People" WANT to adopt some kind of "socialized medicine" scheme -- no matter how destructive and expensive it is to medical practice in this country, that is one thing. But to FORCE people to buy 'insurance' or anything else in the United States, just because they are ALIVE, is unconstitutional....

 

You're absolutely correct, my friend, and as you're surely aware you're only scraping the tip of the iceberg.

Back when the oral arguments were being heard before the SCOTUS, I wrote a letter published in The Wall Street Journal wherein I pointed out that in the United States of America, rights and responsibilities are derived from the individual - they are not derived from the state and dictated to the individual as they were in the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. I think the late Justice Kennedy noted the exact same thing when he stated that the mandate fundamentally altered the relationship between the individual and the state. Even though so many people seemed to miss it (ignorance is bliss), or simply didn't care (damn them), this is no small matter - we're talking about obliterating the hard-won centuries of progress that made our country, our individual freedom and our republican form of limited government possible in the first place. As far as I'm concerned, the people who enacted and supported that mandate don't deserve to live in this country and enjoy the freedoms that come with it.