Trump to declare National emergency for Wall

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  1. Capt Nice

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    LOL. Trump is winning appx. 55 miles of fencing which is about what gets done each year without trump. We've presently got over 600 miles of fencing/barriers on the border and the work that's going on now was funded before trump ever muttered the word wall. He's got idiots believing that the work presently going on is part of HIS WALL and the sad part is they believe him. That's why he now encourages "finish the wall" as opposed to "build the wall". The flock gobbles it up not having any idea what's going on.
     
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    I'm afraid that now, in 2019, people like you and I are 'anachronisms' in the United States. In 2020, I have a feeling of growing certainty that the last vestiges of concern for 'constitutional' government will fade and wither. The masses will be blinded by the promise of "free stuff" from the government, and they'll sacrifice anything and everything to get it.

    At some point I finally realized -- Americans are deciding that they want what they think of as "European-style" Socialism, and they aren't even troubled by the enormous amount of TAXES that Europeans pay for their 'utopia'. Why doesn't this bother Americans? Because more and more of us have no real interest in WORKING at all -- so why would they care what some OTHER American has to pay in taxes to give them the 'utopia' that they want...? I truly do believe when we mash all the bullshit out of the issue of government-subsidized, and/or provided "healthcare" (along with all the other welfare handouts) that THIS is the fundamental proposition -- that now, in the 21st-century, Americans will vote in throngs for "free stuff", and that they'll do ANYTHING to get it....
     
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    may as well learn chinese too
     
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  4. Pollycy

    Pollycy Well-Known Member

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    It may also be very helpful to be able to read Russian -- so that when we Americans are given orders from the world's new masters, we'll know what's expected of us....

    [​IMG]. "You Americans are welcome to be as STUPID as you like!" :psychoitc:
     
  5. Blaster3

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    they were /are part of the socialist agenda & the dems took them in, with open arms...
    pelosi & crew, californians, passed laws in their state that go against all things humane... the most astounding recent one came in the form of allowing the deliberate & purposeful infection of an innocent with the hiv virus, it is now just a minor misdemeanor changed from being a felony...

    trump needs to go public with this and ask pelosi why she supports the deliberate, intentional infection with a deadly disease...
     
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    bark chinese back at them and they'll let you carry on while they 'go after' the others...
     
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    I didn't have to do this. I didn't need to do this.
    Some national emergency.

    And then told several lies about why he declared to do so.
    What an idiot.
    Why would anyone support this total lying idiot? They'd have to be the same I guess.
     
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    The Germans will be in a tight economic alliance (and maybe a military one, too) with both the Russians and the Chinese within 10 years. I already speak German, so maybe I can have my "orders" delivered to me in that language.

    Seriously, Germany IS the 'European Union', and with the passing of every month you can see how much closer the Russians and the Chinese are drawing to the entire EU (led by Germany, of course). The Nordstream 2 gas pipeline was a clincher -- and the Chinese are working their "Belt-and-Road" program very effectively in Europe, the Middle East, and Africa.

    Something to notice as all this goes forward... you know who's the 'new kid on the block' that's making a BIG splash in Germany? A big Russian grocery discounter called "Mere" (Torgservis) is 'invading' Germany, posing a real challenge to huge German supermarket chains like Aldi and Lidl. Here a link with the text translated from German: https://www.morgenpost.de/wirtschaf...-eroeffnet-Konkurrenz-fuer-Aldi-und-Lidl.html

    Also: http://mere.ws/en/
     
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    both those german chains are making huge presence in the usa, aldis has been here (trader joes) and lidle just purchased 27 locations in nyc metro area... interesting, isnt it...
     
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    Meh he was rambling.....that happens when he knows he has the Demos painted out.

    But you got to give him credit.....unlike BO the Peep he didn't utter and stutter.
     
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    Why must you hold your president to the same standard as an internet troll?
     
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    It's true. He didn't need to do it but the democrats did a 180 on border security due to TDS.
     
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    I did not see your answer to my previous question. What data is trump using to say that illegal immigrants are more dangerous than native citizens? And that they are arriving in significantly larger numbers than the lowest level of the last 20 years (2017)?
     
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    Has there ever been another example in US history where the president requested money for a project, congress said "no" (or significantly less than requested), and then the president declared a national emergency in order to get more money?
     
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    2018 midterms.
     
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    Democrats negotiated with Republicans in the House and the Senate and came up with a bipartisan funding bill for DHS, negotiated in good faith.

    Trump asked for money for a project. Got less than he demanded. And then made a national emergency declaration to get more money.

    Can you find a single other national emergency declaration where such took place?
     
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    Regarding illegal aliens, current reports generated by CBP, and available on their website. With regards to danger, BJS data.
     
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    I think this is what many spineless swamp rats in the washington establishment wanted

    They are afraid of a hispanic backlash at the polls if they support border security

    Now they are off the hook
     
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    Yes. In fact, it happens every year.

    And kudo's for catching your mistake before running with it. Congress did not say no. And Congress giving a President less than requested occurs all the time. Why is that a signal of anything?

    Next.
     
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    If I understand you correctly, there is data at the CBP which notes that illegal immigration is at levels significantly higher than the 20 year low experienced in 2017. How much higher?

    Similarly, you imply that there is data at with the BJS that demonstrates illegal aliens are more likely to commit violent crimes (or even just crimes beyond the crime directly associated with their illegal citizenship status) than the native population. Do you have a link?
     
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    Wait...what happens every year? A President declares a national emergency every year to get more money for a project than the amount deemed appropriate by Congress?
     
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    No one knows how many illegals succeed in sneaking in each year

    Does BP catch 50%?

    No one can say

    If its 10% that means millions get in every year

    And that is not acceptable
     
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    Kind of funny but AOC compared the wall to the Berlin wall, that socialists built.
     
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    Does she think that Mexico and the US were one country being divided into two countries?

    I mean why does this all matter anyways as we are all dead in 12 years according to her.
     
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    I am not sure why she is upset about spending money on a wall. After all, isn't everything going to be free?
     

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