Colorado Democrats suddenly move to abolish capital punishment now that Hickenlooper is a candidate.

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  1. Pollycy

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    Former Colorado Governor, John Hickenlooper has announced his intention to run on the Democrat presidential ticket in 2020. Here's what his liberal Democrat supporters don't want you to know about how Hickenlooper personally and arbitrarily aborted justice for a convicted mass-murderer in Colorado, and without any justification whatsoever, "indefinitely suspended" the lawful death sentence for this murderer, Nathan Dunlap.

    Links:
    https://coloradopeakpolitics.com/20...ler-nathan-dunlaps-life-with-executive-order/
    https://www.denverpost.com/2013/05/22/nathan-dunlap-granted-temporary-reprieve-by-governor/

    So, a liberal Democrat governor sabotages the death penalty for a convicted mass-murderer... who cares... right? But here's where it gets interesting --

    Another liberal Democrat, Jared Polis, and the Democrat majorities in both houses of the Colorado Assembly are shoving through legislation right now that would totally abolish capital punishment in the State of Colorado! WHAT A COINCIDENCE!

    In the public 'perception', how can anybody 'smell a rat' on Hickenlooper if Colorado no longer even has a death penalty?! Think: Democrat Polis was elected last November to replace term-limited Hickenlooper, who now is a candidate for the presidency. The sheer TIMING of this manipulative farce is delicious!

    The overriding question, though is this: do Americans want to have someone like John Hickenlooper as President of the United States? A man who has already demonstrated his perfect willingness to overturn the law, and all the precepts of crime and punishment, and to set aside the guilty verdict and the due punishment for a mass-murderer demanded by a jury.

    Aside: bet your money on liberal Democrats abolishing the death penalty in Colorado in a matter of days, and then blithely looking the other way while Hickenlooper's allies push the whole Nathan Dunlap travesty further into invisibility....
     
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    Yeah, their new liberal Demo governor wants to get all three of them off death row and get rid of capital punishment.

    Notice anything these criminals have in common? Liberal Democrats never think blacks should be punished for murder.

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    OK, I get it... nobody wants to focus on this. Fine. It will resurface later, and among those who point out Hickenlooper's willingness to let murderers escape the consequence of their crimes will be -- guess who -- some of the other Democrat contenders for the 2020 nomination. And, they should!

    One last observation about capital punishment... the only reason that it is criticized as not being an effective deterrent to crime is because IT IS NOT USED IN A TIMELY WAY. When some murderer commits an eligible crime, is sentenced to be executed, and then lolls around on "death row" for TWENTY F*CKING YEARS, how is "justice" served? Why would anyone take a miscarriage of "justice" like that seriously? So, we let them live relatively pampered lives with many comforts not enjoyed by "free" citizens, for as long as they live, courtesy of the U. S. taxpayers. That makes NO sense at all... and neither does John Hickenlooper interfering with and interrupting the death sentence on Nathan Dunlap!

    On the bright side, at least if Hickenlooper goes to Washington, it will get him OUT of Colorado (my home state). And even though he's already been replaced by another hyperliberal, Democrat creep in the Governor's office, Jared Polis, the further we can get Hickenlooper away from Colorado, the better! Funny... people in Arkansas said the same thing about the Clintons back in the '90's....

    [​IMG]."What do you need a JURY for when you've got me and my wisdom...?!"
     
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    Questerr Banned

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    How little do Conservatives care about freedom when the loss of it for the entire rest of one’s life isn’t seen as a punishment?
     
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    it isnt the jury's mandated punishment, it is also a major burden upon society to continue to house someone that should have been executed long ago...
    libs don't play by society's rules, they choose to intervene with their own ideals at other's expense... the law is the law and it should be applied forthwith & immediately...

    these 'dems' are continueing the destruction started by obama's release of all those hundreds of felons committed to life sentences... making a mockery of our judicial system, siding with criminal behaviour and mocking america...
     
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    What's really so deceptive about the arguments that bleeding-heart liberals use to say we should get rid of capital punishment is the economics involved! When you put a pencil to it, it can easily cost more than a million dollars to house, feed, and provide "services" to a convict on death row for 15 - 20 years -- and that's AFTER over a million dollars is customarily spent on his trial and re-trial.

    Capital punishment could cost as little as twenty cents! That's the cost of one 38-special cartridge at the bulk-purchase rate.... But, unfortunately, we haven't got that much common sense! And leading those with so little common sense are morons like John Hickenlooper....
     
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    So we start taking convicted murderers immediately behind the courthouse and shooting them, how many innocent people are you cool with the government murdering given the rate at which appeals overturn murder convictions?
     
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    Remarkable. Ok, how about a trade. WE'll swap capital immediacy for abortion and come out hundreds of thousands of lives better for it. If, as you suggest, you're really only interested in the big picture, this then, should be a deal you're good with.
     
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    Swap the death penalty for the enslavement of women? How does that ****ed logic work?
     
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    With the advantages that rapidly evolving crime-solving technologies provide, including the very valuable addition of DNA testing, far fewer suspects are 'wrongfully-convicted' now than ever before.

    But, mass-murderer creeps like Nathan Dunlap -- who John Hickenlooper decided arbitarily to rescue from capital punishment on an indefinite basis -- was not (NOT) wrongfully convicted. He flat-out murdered four people at a restaurant, in cold blood! And nobody disputes that at all. Still, somehow in his infinite wisdom, Hickenlooper decided entirely on his own to interfere with JUSTICE in Dunlap's case. And many of us in Colorado have been asking "WHY?!" for years.... I don't want anyone as President of the United States who 'thinks' like that!
     
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    LOL.. so predictable. "enslavement of women"... :roflol: Your hyperbole knows no bounds.....
     
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    Yes, “far fewer” are wrongly convicted, but that number is not zero.

    So how many innocent people are you cool with the government murdering?
     
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    How is it hyperbole? Either women own their bodies or they don’t. If they don’t, then the ownership of their bodies is being seized by someone else against their will.
     
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    I am personally opposed to capitol punishment. Not because some people do not deserve to live, but because they are wrong too often. One wrong man put to death is too often.
     
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    What toss. The act of abortion actually exposes the woman to someone who not only seizes their body, but rips the other one out against it's will. Or did you forget that part. But stay with this idea of "ownership" for a minute. If a woman can choose this, and forecably kill on demand, why can't government? You're already agreed that a standard for it exists, why not allow government to do the same, and more, wouldn't allowing government to make the decision make it infinitely more democratic?
     
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    Negative. Women have the right to deny the use of their body to another person. It is not even remotely the same thing.
     
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    agreed, 'cept imo, public hangings would drive a more convincing point to not commit felonious crimes. a year or two later they'd drop to near zero...
     
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    Which is exactly what happened when we had public executions right? Crime dropped to zero and there were no more executions?
     
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    I suppose your ideology works effectively as birth control... but cool. Clearly, you had to change the subject, but it doesn't change the fact that you've already agreed that decisive murder is something you find appealing. So, again, why not let government have the same privilege as a woman?
     
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    yet, hundreds of deaths and bodily injuries occur at the hands of illegals, yet no wall... silly logic, lib 101...
     
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    I think you are missing the obvious profit motive liberals have in continuing all of the litigation these conditions induce. Liberals/lawyers, all make bank from folks exactly like this. If you suddenly stopped the flow of illegals, and crime abated, whatever would all those useless lawyers do?
     
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    same logic behind drug enforcement, why put an end to all those agency jobs, all that money induced at hospitals and all those clinics & rehabs... far too much moola being made legally and illegally (which all ends up in our economic engine, right?)

    EDIT: it is always about the money, morals don't matter...
     
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    Exactly right.
     
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    The government doesn’t have rights.

    Women don’t have a privilege. They have a right to self-ownership.
     

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