California governor says Republican Party is headed 'into the waste bin of history'

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  1. carlosofcali

    carlosofcali Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Perhaps this article in the LAT will help shed light on why Republicans are persona non grata in California.

    "Republicans need to change their product. Californians aren’t buying it" https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-sac-skelton-california-republicans-20190617-story.html

    "Politics is like private enterprise. You either sell your product or perish.

    California voters have not been buying Republican merchandise. So Democrats have monopolized the market.

    It’s not the fault of consumers for not liking what the GOP has been peddling. Nor should the Democratic retailers be blamed.

    The Republican Party is culpable for not adjusting to the changing California marketplace.

    That’s my quick civics lesson about why people who don’t like what Democrats are doing in Sacramento should blame Republicans for allowing themselves to become too weak to compete. They’re super minorities and virtually irrelevant.

    Republicans are supposed to provide the checks and balances against Democrats. Their job is to push back. But they’ve atrophied. That’s inexcusable.

    Last week, I tucked that thought briefly into a column about some highlights and lowlights of a new $215-billion state budget crafted by Gov. Gavin Newsom and Democratic legislators. And a lot of readers — presumably Republicans — emailed me that it was twisted logic.

    Some examples:

    “You can’t blame Republicans for the third-world mess that is now California. Leftist, liberal voters have made it a one-party state. No conservative can get elected.”

    “You got it wrong. It is all on the Democrats…. Democrats are to blame by turning a blind eye and really encouraging illegal immigration.”

    “Democrats are giving everything away.”

    “By the same token, you’d argue that if you’re unhappy with Trump, blame Dems, right? If they had put up a better candidate, he would have never been elected?”

    Exactly. I was arguing that in 2016 even before Democrats nominated Hillary Clinton, a flawed candidate who ran a terrible campaign. I do blame Democrats for President Trump.

    I called former Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, a centrist Republican who famously warned a GOP state convention in 2007 that “in movie terms, we are dying at the box office. We are not filling the seats.”

    In that speech, Schwarzenegger praised Ronald Reagan as “the pragmatic conservative who reached out and captured the political center.” And he quoted then-Gov. Reagan’s remarks 40 years earlier to a Republican activist group:

    “We cannot become a narrow sectarian party in which all must swear allegiance to prescribed commandments. Such a party can be highly disciplined, but it does not win elections. This kind of party soon disappears in a blaze of glorious defeat.”

    Reagan’s prophecy was on target: The California Republican Party has all but disappeared in a blaze of defeats, but they haven’t been glorious.

    Schwarzenegger, 71, has resumed his acting career and is chairman of the Schwarzenegger Institute at USC, a centrist think tank. I asked him whether the California GOP could revive itself.

    “What you need to do is to be competitive,” he said. “It’s like a business, right? The ones that offer the best service are the ones who get the most business. Same with the party. The party that has the most answers to problems, they’re getting the action, the votes.”

    Schwarzenegger said voters particularly wanted answers to problems of healthcare, education and climate change, and Republicans aren’t providing them.

    “They’re extremely important to women,” he added.

    “When I was [governor], Republicans were complaining about the women they were losing. That was no surprise to me when I got into it. They said ‘no’ to anything.”

    Over the years, whenever a GOP legislative leader has tried to prod Republicans toward the practical center on any issue, he quickly has been dumped. Assemblyman Chad Mayes (R-Yucca Valley) was ousted as minority leader two summers ago.

    Mayes had the audacity to side with Gov. Jerry Brown and Democrats in voting to extend California’s climate-change-fighting cap-and-trade program.

    “California Republicans are different than national Republicans,” Mayes said during the Assembly debate. “Many of us believe that climate change is real and we have to work to address it.”

    He quickly found out that his colleagues, at least, weren’t that much different. Since then Mayes has launched an organization, New Way California, to focus on issues that appeal to voters. Schwarzenegger has pitched in.

    Last week I asked Mayes what the GOP needed to do. He says it needs to do more than just oppose taxes.

    “I don’t know anyone who doesn’t believe Republicans aren’t the anti-tax party,” he said. “Obviously that isn’t enough. It doesn’t have the same impact it did in 1978” — when voters passed the property tax-lowering Proposition 13 — “or the mid-’90s.”

    Mayes said Republicans should advocate more efficient education spending and embrace immigrants.

    Immigrants “get the message,” he added, “that Republicans want to deport their parents and grandparents. It’s a repellent.”

    “The only way the Republican Party can grow is to either reflect the values of the electorate or convert them,” Mayes said. “We haven’t done either….

    “This is a democracy, right? In a democracy, you have to change with the time.”

    Matt Rexroad is a Republican consultant and former three-term Yolo County supervisor who represented a district that generally favors Democrats. He probably kept winning reelection because it’s a nonpartisan office and he didn’t have to run with an“R” after his name on the ballot.

    “Republicans have a product that sells in parts of the country but not here,” Rexroad told me. “We’re not doing well in California because the game being played by Republicans is to win across the country.

    “We need the ability to say we’re a different kind of Republican in California.”

    California Republicans need to change their product".

    More from George Skelton »
     
  2. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Dems version of disenfranchising voters. No real choice.
     
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    So what's to happen to Republicans when the Socialist New World Order is established once and for all? Will they be murdered and tortured like they were in Russian during the Russian Revolution, and like they are in South Africa? I have a feeling that 'reeducation' and internment camps are waiting for anyone who won't bow down to the ignorant masses on the left. I also think that whites from Christian backgrounds are being set up for slaughter by the George soroses, zuckerbergs who censor these people, and seems to endorse anti-white rhetoric, and other such people like Newsome. I don't think your voting habits will matter to the brown masses they are riling up against whites. I don't think when the genocide or 'round up' begins they will check to see if you were a good little self-hating white.
    Does this sound a little bit dramatic, or paranoid? https://guardianlv.com/2014/04/sout...escalates-international-groups-seek-solution/
     
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  4. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Biden called for a physical revolution so they are prepping.
     
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    I sure none of you folks move to California given some of your comments. Don't visit us either. We really don't need you.
     
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    Elections do not matter in CA when "progressive" judges do not like the results.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I believe you are correct on what happened to my state of birth and until this month, residence. Here in Idaho, I have gone to some big stores. I marvel at the flow of shoppers. In Ca, all the time we met stoppers. They stop in groups do block others from using the store aisles. Here the store aisles truly are used by shoppers who do not stand blocking up aisles for others. They shop.

    Also, I have seldom saw a person who is not white. I saw for the first time yesterday at a major food store a black man sporting a heavily tattooed white woman. I had laid a $20 on the store counter but managed to use other funds. So sort of was about to walk off when the black guy says, you forgot your money. That was kind on his part. The clerk then pointed it out as well.

    In the park over Fathers day, only whites. No neighbors are other than whites that I have seen yet.

    My former city was half Asians and plenty of Afghanis and others as well.

    There you see women in openly native garb from other countries. Not yet here. I will report from time to time to time.
     
  8. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Aliens in CA is normal. Few there were born there. Idaho where I moved to is like the USA used to be. I should keep that to myself I am told.
     
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    Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras and plenty from those countries too are there. Then you have China and India. Soon it will be a distant memory of how it once was golden. CA also once had plenty of Grizzly Bears. They vanished and native Californians will be a distant memory.
     
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    Yep, as I noted in another thread, only 25% of Latinos support free speech or gun rights. The Republicans should start dismantling the Constitution to appeal to the new constituency. We will have a Latin American style government in the future, that is inescapable. My generation inherited a 1st world nation unparalleled in human history, my grandkids will grow up in a caste system overseen by an authoritarian state that is common across the 3rd world.... the difference for them is that there will be nowhere for them to flee to. This is occurring across all 1st world white nations (with the exception of Eastern Europe).
     
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    BOTH parties are down in numbers across the country - because BOTH parties no longer represent the average, middle-road American.
     
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    You are aware that in 68 the South went with Nixon but still went Democratic in all other Congressional, state, county and local elections.

    The KKK was still the militant arm of the Democratic party in 68.

    How many Republicans in the South were elected County Sheriff ?
    How many Grand Wizards of the KKK were Republican ? None

    The South started going red around the first exodus during the late 70's from California when Republicans and conservatives fled California and moved mostly to Georgia and Texas.

    At the same time Republicans in the North started migrating to the sunbelt states (South)
     
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    I'm not politically correct and when I see a spade I call it a spade.
     
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    ny is well on it's way to becoming a cali clone, thanks to the dems... guess they miss the filth & turmoil of seventies nyc, it was a slum city
     
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    Ah... the democratic "southern strategy"... Fill the south with illegals and then get them voting.... LBJ would be proud of you folks...

    Meanwhile, back in the real world... Recently, at a local BBQ joint.. some transplanted Kalifornians were spouting off about how great the food was... and yet, at the same time... so grossly offended by the smoke those "things out back" were emitting... Swear you just can't make this shyte up...
     
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    I hope you are right.

    What Gavin Newsom claimed that as California goes the rest of America follows.

    Been hearing that since the 1950's and there is some truth to it.

    California has set the fads, popular culture, slang, etc for the rest of the country for over six decades.

    Even the AR-15 was born behind the Orange Curtain in Costa Mesa, California.

    Todays radical loony progressives were called San Francisco Liberals back in 68.
     
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    The GOP is always cleaning house and remaking itself.

    50's and 60's you had the Rockefeller Republicans in charge.
    Late 60's and 70's the Nixonites.
    80's the conservatives were in charge and won the Cold War.
    90's to 2008 the neocons were in charge.
    From 2008 to 2016 nobody was in charge of the GOP.
     
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    They are in the forest looking for magic mushrooms.
     
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    Meanwhile California is on the way to being the world's biggest open air cess pool
     
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    Gov. Gray Davis (D) Attorney General Bill Lockyer (D) defended Prop 157 in the courts.

    Actually California ignored the will of the people and refused to defend Prop 187.

    The authors of Prop 187 were not allowed to defend Prop 187 in the courts.
    The Democrats would do it.
     
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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Bog Mac's ?
     
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    Basically you are for a one party system, you know, like most fascist countries.
     
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    That makes even more sense, and explains a lot of other things going on there....
     
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    yeah, Cause republican states like AL are do much better with their nutty stuff
     
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    California is no more a single party state than Texas or N Dakota, or a dozen other southern or Mid-West states are Republican. Why are they OK & California something to be attacked?
     
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