AOC proposes to eliminate Homeland Security

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  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have yet to see any form of proof to back up this statement.

    Will some Democrat step forward to assist this poster in proving the below?

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    You mean, besides Robert Byrd serving as a Democrat Senator and Grand Wizard of the KKK? lol

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    You keep forgetting that the KKK was founded by Democrats after they lost the Civil War, as a way to try and intimidate and harass slaves as they were freed and living in society. Nothing has changed except Democrats have morphed hate groups into things like the Nazi Party and ANTIFA. Ideologies of hatred and enslavement are bred by Democrats to control people and populations. Fascism, Communism and all of these dictatorships are born from the same Democrat ideology.
     
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    Robert Byrd, unlike Strom Thurmond, repented and became a renowned civil rights leader.

    To bad Thurmond and Goldwater and dozens of other GOP contemporaries of Byrd did not do that.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have deeply investigated the records of congress to learn all about the civil rights laws. I found that the high percent who voted for the civil rights laws were the republicans. The party that dominated wanting those laws to never appear in print were Democrats. So you are correct that this can all be looked up. The later shift was not due to race issues but due to economic issues. And you can look that up. Yes I was banned and the Mods kept showing me as still banned. They corrected it by today.
     
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    BuckyBadger Well-Known Member

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    He was still a Democrat and served as a Democrat in office. He was a racist and a member of the KKK. Funny how Democrats seem to "gloss over" this in all of their race baiting and hatred directed at others.
     
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    The Dems had more votes than the GOP for civil rights laws, Robert.

    The Dems had a higher % of congressional senators and reps in the south voting for civil rights than the GOP, Robert.

    The Dems FORCED the GOP to comply with the Dem's will on civil rights in 1963 and 1964.
     
  7. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Robert Byrd was far more powerful and influential than David Duke ever has been. Funny that when Duke was a devoted Democrat, we never heard Democrats speak bad about the man at all.
     
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    He repented, which Thurmond and Goldwater and dozens of other GOPers did not, and you can't get around that.
     
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    Strom Thurmond was an unrepentant Dixiecrat who switched parties to avoid a primary against another (D).
     
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    He became a Republican is all that matters, along with not repenting. So he became an unrepentant Republican.
     
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    Irrelevant. His repenting was meaningless. He lied about his affiliation with the KKK and made numerous statements (misstatements) through the years that pointed to his racism and his affiliation. Even as late as 2001.

    Byrd was a Democrat Party leader of the Senate:

    Byrd's early votes in Congress reflected his roots in Southern anti-black, anti-Catholic and anti-Semitic teachings. Byrd initially denounced civil rights leader Martin Luther King as a "self-seeking rabble rouser," and he worked in opposition to the 1964 Civil Rights Act, a landmark law that removed many barriers for black Americans. He also voted against the 1965 Voting Rights Act, which protected the voting rights of American minorities, making a 15-hour filibuster speech in an attempt to keep the legislation from passing.

    His actions as a leader say otherwise.
     
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    No so!

    She occupies a place of importance in the head of every right winger on this forum.

    Their media is obsessed with her, and give her far more attention than anyone else does.

    Trump needs bogey men for his knuckle draggers.

    So, four minority congressmen get to be the bogey men.

    In a normal world, Ocasio-Cortez would be allowed to go on making public statements while being increasingly ignored. After a while, the TV cameras would get bored, and she would go on to being an inexperience politician who got a buzz off of early celebrity but found herself isolated, and eventually voted out, or reduced to the gadfly status the Bernie Sanders has occupied for most of his Senatorial career.

    But Trump needs bogey men, and bloody shirts.

    This is his shtick, and he was pretty happy when the audience chanted the way they did.

    He’s well on his way to being an open racist and proud of it. The mobs at his rallies are very obviously fine with that.

    The GOP, which plans to stick around after Trump is gone, is not so happy.

    Trump’s appeal to blatant and latent white racism is all but official now. Even on this forum, we have Trumpsters saying they have no objection to racism (while denying that they are racist out of the other side of their mouths).

    The next step is a very short one indeed.

    Sinclair Lewis was right.
     
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  13. Robert

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    Nobody disputes the power of the larger numbers of Democrats. But Democrats worked hard to stop the bill. Republicans actually promoted it. Despite the overwhelming advantage to the Democrats, they came close to stopping it entirely then.

    Jake, just prove it.

    You saying it or me saying it does not matter a hill of beans.

    https://www.loc.gov/exhibits/civil-rights-act/civil-rights-act-of-1964.html

    How many Republicans voted for 1964 Civil Rights?
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1964
     
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    Did someone say something?
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    Nope ... no PF alerts.
    Just talking to myself, Jesse Helms was another unrepentant Dixiecrat.
    1st generation RINO's ... good riddance.
     
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    Goldwater does not belong in this discussion since he played a very minor role. Democrats worked diligently to prevent the 1964 law. And blocked it in committee resulting in a threatened floor fight in the house.

    Goldwater gets named by Democrats but notice they do not ever explain his vote.

    Goldwater was committed to each state deciding that for themselves. Goldwater truly believed in the constitution. Far more Democrats tried to block the law than had republicans.
     
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    Nobody cares about AOC, she just gets mocked 24/7. However, like a clown that falls all over themselves, people can't stop staring and laughing at her. Except her own district where she cost them 25K jobs and billions in lost revenue. They didn't find it so funny.
     
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    Jake, simply study the congressional record. I did and trust me, the Democrats worked hard to defeat the civil rights laws.

    For a time, the Democrats who controlled both houses had a hell of a fight. In the Democrat house, the committee in charge blocked it. Republicans could not block anything.
     
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    Nancy mocks her saying she just has 4 votes. Her district, the way I see it, won't return her to her congressional office next time.
     
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    No matter who says different, Byrd repented and became a civil rights leader, and because of that, the GOP attacks his memory and distorts history.
     
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    The Dems crushed the GOP and southern Dem opposition. No way to get around it.
     
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    Goldwater, of course does and will remain in the discussion; he was a senator who hid his discrimination and hatred of civil liberties behind small government philosophy. I met Barry and know him for what he was.
     
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    In the north and west, the Dems had more yea votes in a higher % of yea votes than the GOP. The GOP, oth, voted UNANIMOUSLY in the south against the bill while some Dems voted yea. Can't get around it.
     
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    He was still a racist and a KKK member. Period. Democrats, knowing full well he was a KKK member, elected him to office.
     

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