Homeowner shot a 14-year-old during burglary attempt. The 5 other teens with him were charged with m

Here's Wisconsin's felony murder statute... my state.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felony_murder_rule_(Wisconsin)

 

His name was Darwin?

 

Where are you?......

 

Gawd. Australia.

 

So...you need to wait until they kill you to defend yourself? That literally makes no sense.

 

Might at as well have been, we need many more like him.

 

Well, THERE'S your problem.

 

I like with the principle that the legal system should focus more on intent rather than outcome when prosecuting criminals, though predictable outcomes should be included to. You need to cover wanton negligence as well as malicious intent. Of course, all of that would require a massive intellectual shift in how the system works and how we all view it and that would be a difficult sell politically.

Well the details aren’t clear but it sounds like the thieves were outside trying to steal his car when he went out to confront them so it’s possible that by remaining inside and calling the police immediately, he may well have prevented the confrontation, including having the knowledge he killed someone on his mind.

 

You ever been in Chicago bro? You call the cops today, and next week they'll get back to you.

 

Mate, I see nothing there relevant to this Thread.

 

Read the story =

Licensed gun owner shoots and kills 14-year-old boy during attempted car theft in Lake County; 5 teens charged with murder
“The teens were charged due to them being in commission of a forcible felony, when the 14-year-old victim was shot and subsequently died as a result of being shot during the commission of a burglary,” according to a Tuesday night news release from the Lake County sheriff’s office.

Illinois law allows for authorities to charge suspects with murder if someone dies during the commission of another serious crime. Known as the felony murder rule, the statute has proved controversial, particularly when it is used to charge juveniles.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news...0190813-vic4fzjmwbf43n2r23bjapjine-story.html

 

Come on. Read what I said.

 

No problem here. I walk around, sleep at night and do not fear being shot at. Burgled......well it's never happened to me. It is also pretty rare when the occupants are home. Burglars want your stuff, not your Life.

 

You're blind then.

I'll Copypasta.

In Wisconsin, the felony murder rule is found in Wis. Stat. Sec. 940.03 and was last revised in 2005. Generally, the statute applies to dangerous felonies, felonies that have a propensity to cause great bodily harm, or those that involve a dangerous weapon or even a facade of a weapon. Sentences adding felony murder are enhanced by a maximum of 15 years, plus whatever the maximum of the underlying felony awards.[1]

Crimes in the felony murder statute in Wisconsin are:

• battery, including that to an unborn child
• Sexual assault of the first degree, or second degree if it is by use or threat of force or violence
• False imprisonment
• Kidnapping
• Arson of buildings or damage of property by explosives
• Burglary with a dangerous weapon, explosives, or burglary of any inhabited dwelling
• Carjacking
• Robbery with a dangerous weapon, or even with an object that leads someone to believe there is a dangerous weapon

Robbery and possibly carjacking would be comparable in this case.

 

I'm saying, you have much stricter gun laws. Jesus.

 

The area where the shooting happened does not have a police force. The sheriff's department patrols it.

"Old Mill Creek, a rural area with a cluster of historic homes surrounded by large equestrian farms, had only 178 residents as of the 2010 census. The town has no police force, so depends on the sheriff to patrol the area."
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news...0190813-vic4fzjmwbf43n2r23bjapjine-story.html

 

Even worse! Response time would be longer!

 

Ta. I see comments but the Author of the Article. I don't see the Legislation.

 

Yes. Go figure.

 

In this particular instance, the teens confessed that they drove to the area for the express purpose of committing some crimes. They were in the process of doing that when they were discovered. The guy who did the shooting is under investigation. I doubt he will be charged given the circumstances, but it is possible that he could be.

 

I'll help again.

ILLINOIS STATUTES
According to Illinois Law 720 ILCS 5/9-1, first degree murder is defines as the intentional killing of another person, the infliction of great bodily harm knowing it could lead to death, commits an act that has a strong probability of causing death or great bodily harm, or occurs during the perpetration of a forcible felony.

Illinois Law 720 ILCS 5/2-8 lists forcible felonies as sexual assault, robbery, burglary, arson, kidnapping, aggravated battery, and any other felony that involve the use of or threat of physical force or violence.

What this means is that you could be charged with first degree murder even if you don’t intend to kill anyone, but are involved in any of the crimes listed as a forcible felony. A death sentence can follow a conviction of murder if certain aggravating factors exist. Relevant to Felony Murder would be the killing of a police officer or fireman while on duty, actually killing a person while committing the felony, inflicting injuries along with other felons that caused a death, or committing an inherently violent felony.

https://www.criminallawyer-chicago.com/blog/what-is-the-felony-murder-law-in-illinois/

 

We're not talking gun laws though are we?
And it was a criminal, not an innocent victim that died.

Sometimes death is the price you pay, for the life you choose.

 

Why don't you Google Illinois law. You do know how to Google, don't you? You can also use different search engines or go do some housework.

 

And no massacres.

 

I don't care, remember bro, I'm a 2x felon anyway.
ALL my heat is illegal.

Great to see ya again.. after nearly 2 years!